Attaching wall to beam
#1
01-22-04, 12:57 PM
Attaching wall to beam
I plan on finishing my basement soon to give the kids some room to run. My plans are to make a play room on one half on the basement.
Now to my problem. The steel I-Beam runs right down the place I need to put the wall How to a go about attaching the wall at the top to the -IBeam. It doesnt have to be pretty, because the drop cealing will go lower than that point.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
Now to my problem. The steel I-Beam runs right down the place I need to put the wall How to a go about attaching the wall at the top to the -IBeam. It doesnt have to be pretty, because the drop cealing will go lower than that point.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
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01-23-04, 04:51 AM
If it were me, I'd drill holes in the web of the beam and use something like 1/4-20 bolts every 6 feet or so. Note that I'm not a professional, just a dedicated DIYer, but I don't see anything wrong with doing it this way.
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01-23-04, 05:33 AM
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mlyday,
You could easily use a Hilti and shoot a top plate to the bottom of the beam, then do same to attachement to slab. Cut 2x4 studs to fit the height and you're done.
Renting of this is inexpensive and nails can be provided by tool rental or get them at HD.
Easy, fast and clean. Use Saftey Glasses and keep children from work area when doing this. Also advise your neighbors that you're working, as the sound may carry next door if they live close.
Hope this helps!
You could easily use a Hilti and shoot a top plate to the bottom of the beam, then do same to attachement to slab. Cut 2x4 studs to fit the height and you're done.
Renting of this is inexpensive and nails can be provided by tool rental or get them at HD.
Easy, fast and clean. Use Saftey Glasses and keep children from work area when doing this. Also advise your neighbors that you're working, as the sound may carry next door if they live close.
Hope this helps!
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01-23-04, 06:08 AM
Just out of curiosity, is there anything wrong with the way I suggested to do it (I'm always trying to learn)? Assuming mlyday owns a drill, it might take longer but would cost practically nothing compared to renting a Hilti and buying its special fasteners.
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01-23-04, 06:20 AM
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md2lgyk,
Nothing wrong with your idea at but when I look at a job, I always consider the entire scope of it.
The bolts are fine and this would be fine if that was all that was needed. Then I look at what will happen with framing attachment to the floor. As such, the Hilti is the best choice for accomplishing more than beam attachment.
The costs for rental is very low - HD has it at $18 for 4 hours of $25 all day, charges are 20 for $4 and the fasteners are $4-$7 for 20. Depending on the LF, maybe buying a larger quanity is needed but still reasonable.
If I had a race with you, I'd be done with top and bottom in no time.
Does this help?
Nothing wrong with your idea at but when I look at a job, I always consider the entire scope of it.
The bolts are fine and this would be fine if that was all that was needed. Then I look at what will happen with framing attachment to the floor. As such, the Hilti is the best choice for accomplishing more than beam attachment.
The costs for rental is very low - HD has it at $18 for 4 hours of $25 all day, charges are 20 for $4 and the fasteners are $4-$7 for 20. Depending on the LF, maybe buying a larger quanity is needed but still reasonable.
If I had a race with you, I'd be done with top and bottom in no time.
Does this help?
#6
01-23-04, 06:39 AM
Choices, Choice
I do own a number of drills and and have finished off part of the basement in our last house, but didnt have to deal with this situation.
What exaxtly does the Hilti do. Is it the one that uses the .22 shells to shoot the fasteners into the cement or steel beam?
Thanks for the help guys.
Mark
What exaxtly does the Hilti do. Is it the one that uses the .22 shells to shoot the fasteners into the cement or steel beam?
Thanks for the help guys.
Mark
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01-23-04, 06:46 AM
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Mark,
I have never had that happen. Don't worry, you need to press firm against the wood and if the nail failed to penetrate, the nail will stay within the confines of the wood. The proper size charge is the key and when you rent these , they will give you instructions to its use. It is really simple but be careful with any tool such as this.
Good Luck and let us know how it worked for you!
I have never had that happen. Don't worry, you need to press firm against the wood and if the nail failed to penetrate, the nail will stay within the confines of the wood. The proper size charge is the key and when you rent these , they will give you instructions to its use. It is really simple but be careful with any tool such as this.
Good Luck and let us know how it worked for you!
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01-23-04, 07:07 AM
Hey, thanks for the advice. I'm sure the Hilti method is faster, but since I enjoy remodeling and real hands-on work is therapeutic (I do computer stuff for a living and stare at a screen all day) I'm generally not too concerned about how long it takes.
As an aside, I vaguely recall that somewhere I lived maybe 30 years ago, a Hilti was considered a firearm and you couldn't rent one without having a State license to use it. Have you ever heard of this, or am I just having a "senior moment?"
As an aside, I vaguely recall that somewhere I lived maybe 30 years ago, a Hilti was considered a firearm and you couldn't rent one without having a State license to use it. Have you ever heard of this, or am I just having a "senior moment?"
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01-23-04, 07:15 AM
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md2lgyk,
You're having a "senior moment". These are rentable everywhere and is not considered a firearm in it's traditional sense.
Time is money, especially in today's world. Doing it easier is always better than fighting a method that takes longer even though it may have the same results in the end.
I know what you are talking about staring at the computer all day. What I do for a living is just that. Luckily, I enjoy what I do!
Hope this helps!
You're having a "senior moment". These are rentable everywhere and is not considered a firearm in it's traditional sense.
Time is money, especially in today's world. Doing it easier is always better than fighting a method that takes longer even though it may have the same results in the end.
I know what you are talking about staring at the computer all day. What I do for a living is just that. Luckily, I enjoy what I do!
Hope this helps!
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01-23-04, 07:17 AM
Thabks a bunch guy, I really had no idea where to start. md2lgyk I also stare at a computer all day, and unfortunatly I have to stare at it all this weekend. But I might have to make a trip to home depot for a load of wood and check on the hilti.
Thanks again.
Ill let you know how it comes out.
Mark
Thanks again.
Ill let you know how it comes out.
Mark
