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# framing problem . urgent!

## framing problem . urgent!

#1
08-19-04, 12:53 PM
nikks
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framing problem . urgent!

Hi ,

We have just started our basement project .Made one frame after measuring height .but when we are tapping it to the joist.It seems one joist's height is lil more than the others.Now we r stuck if we cut all studs others wil be loose.
So what should we do ?

Also how much tight they should with joists ? And which part should sit first top plate or lower P/T one ?

Also how to make frame with even joists Like where we cab attach on top the even joist if far from the wall ?

nikks

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08-19-04, 01:38 PM
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We have just started our basement project .Made one frame after measuring height .but when we are tapping it to the joist.It seems one joist's height is lil more than the others.Now we r stuck if we cut all studs others wil be loose.
If your house is built already, it has all the bearing walls it needs regardless of the direction of the one you're building now. Notch the top plate under the joist that is low, it should be fine.

Also how much tight they should with joists ?
As said above, (assuming your house is built already) you have all the support you need, so if the wall is a little loose its OK, just shim it and nail it to the joists through the shims.

And which part should sit first top plate or lower P/T one ?
Doesn't matter. Any way you can get it in there and get it plumb is fine. If I was building it I would put one plate at the top before building the wall, then you don't have "diagonal dimension" problems when tilting up the wall.

Also how to make frame with even joists Like where we cab attach on top the even joist if far from the wall ?
If you're asking what I think you are, how to make the joists level(even) enough to make the wall the same height all the way across, without scabbing on new lumber you really can't, and I wouldn't go to that trouble for a partition wall. Attaching the top plate to the joists first may HELP, but it won't make it perfect.

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08-19-04, 01:41 PM
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I know that when I was framing my basement, I bought these "framing strips" from Home Depot. They come in a pack of about 10. JUst put as many as you need to make up the space and nail everything to the joists. After using them, they helped to make the frame accesible to the above floor joists.

Hope this helps

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08-19-04, 02:03 PM
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If you dont want to set a P/T sill plate on the floor first then put the wall on top of it. Put the top plat of the wall up first this way you can tap the bottom plate over with a block to hit on so you dont mark up the bottom plate. Also it is a lot less work to hammer over the bottom plate in line that it is the hammer the top plate over your head .
Use shims like said. Cut studs to fit the low joist

ED

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08-19-04, 06:15 PM
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i nailed my PT bottom plate to the floor first, then tacked the top plate to the joists, temporarily.I used scraps of 3/4" stock to space the plates from the wall. I did this all the way around the perimeter. Then i cut each stud to fit,plus 1/16", then tapped each one in. I then moved the top plate till the studs were plumb, and then secured them to the joists. It was fast and easy. I did 133' of walls in about 8 hours, including framing around 5 windows.

Had i had less junk in the basement, I may have framed the walls on the floor first, but i doubt i would have saved much time.

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08-20-04, 01:47 PM
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Start at the top

Attach the top plate to the joists first. Then drop a plumb from the top plate to locate the bottom plate. Now the top and bottom plates are plumb to each other... attach the bottom plate to the floor. Next, mark the point for each stud on the top plate, drop the plumb and mark the point on the bottom plate. Next measure this distance from top to bottom plate and cut your studs. Leave them a hair long and tap them in place. If your top plate doesn't make contact with all the joists, use some shims (or don't, it doesnt have to touch EVERY joist). Also, try spellcheck!

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08-20-04, 06:04 PM
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When you have a payroll to meet You will lay it out and nail it on the floor. then just put it up.

ED