System drain, refill, air purge: what would you charge


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Old 05-10-06, 07:42 AM
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System drain, refill, air purge: what would you charge

Our new neighbors just moved into a house that is 60 years (like ours)....and they are now facing each and every renovation that we faced. First-off is the bathroom that needs a tub removal and new faucet fixtures....naturally, it's an ugly job with laft and plaster to deal with as well as the break-up of a cast iron tub. Dealing with the retaining of the tile is hard enough....I know, I did it to our bathroom....we did not want to build a new surround.
However, the neighbors are facing even more problems....in order to install the new tub using the slide-it-in-from-the-side technique that I used, a baseboard hot water heating unit must be removed. This of course causes the entire forced hot water system to need to be drained and refilled. I've done this before and it is quite tedious and time-consuming to go to all of the units and purge the air from them.
What should be charged for that portion of the work ?
What would you charge for the entire job (remove/replace bathtub, tub surround tile, remove/replace fixtures) ?
They've had a plumber in there already, and actually, he didn't want to "touch" the job !!
 
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Old 05-10-06, 07:07 PM
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I nor anyone else could give them a price without seeing the job or at least having a very good idea as to what is involved. For something of this nature, I always do it on a time & materials basis because you never know what you will run into, such as bleeders which won't open or snap off when you try to open them.
 
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yes, but assuming no major problems arise...

yes, I've witnessed stuck bleeders before.....thanks for reminding me of that one.
The bathroom is small....about 6'x7'....
and again, tile must be cut-out around the tub about 2 rows and a triangle shaped removal around the fixtures.
NOT INCLUDING PROBLEMS AND NOT INCLUDING MATERIALS...
I am thinking about 40 hours for this job. So at $40/hr, that is about $1600. Does that sound reasonable ?

I believe an estimate for complete knock-out and complete re-tiling would be about $4000-6000.
 
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You can get professional builder/plumber labor for $40/hr? Wow. Haven't seen rates that low around here in a while....

Sounds like you have a builder-type issue getting the tiling done, and a plumber-type issue doing the tub/faucets and heat. You want a plumber to lay tile? I know a great builder, but I wouldn't ask him to lay tile or do my plumbing.... The baseboard removal/replace shouldn't be a big deal, nor is drain and fill in a [properly piped] hydronic system.

Maybe the plumber didn't want to touch it because he doesn't do tiling or there's too much construction-like stuff involved?

I also wholeheartedly agree with Grady that it's well nigh impossible to price jobs via the internet.
 

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thanks guys...

sounds like $1600 is a "bargain" then. That's basically what I wanted to know....how many "specialists" would be needed here...and what would they charge.
I'm curious as to what you guys would "ballpark" for this neighbor to gut-and-rebuild this small bathroom ?
This would include new tile floor and tile walls.
Are we talking around:
1) $6,000
2) $8,000
3, $10,000
4) more ?
 
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Beats me. I'd do it all myself.
 
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Anyone else ?

Is there anyone out there who's had to get an estimate for a bathroom gut-and-rebuild ?
 
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Is there anyone out there who's had to get an estimate for a bathroom gut-and-rebuild ?
When I worked for a mortgage company I saw several estimates for 8k to 12k for remodeled bathrooms. You need to have a professional with a good reputation do this kind of work. A little water seeping under the floor or behind the walls can cause thousands of dollars in water and mildew damage.
 
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Old 05-14-06, 06:04 AM
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marksimms: With labor rates and material costs that vary by a large margin across the country, there is no way unless someone is in your area could give even a ballpark price on the job.

Your best bet is to call several contractors in your area and get bids on the job.
 
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thanks guys....

then that's what we'll do....get some estimates, and then I can price off of those.
Still, it's hard to believe prices for similar work would vary so drastically..especially when you consider one could easily make allowances for the cost of living differences.
 
 

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