Riello Problems


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Old 01-26-08, 04:07 PM
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New to the burner DIY and need help with my RIELLO

so i have been reading lot in this forum and believe i might be in the right place.
I have been upgrading my own heating system for several years now and think its time i delve into the burner side of things.
I have a very complex hydronic heating system that is in a really old victorian house on long island.
Basically it a 12 zone combnation of cast iron radiators and baseboard and radiant. Many maifolds and zone valves and circulators. Did a lot of research and am pretty happy wih the hyronic side of things.
The burner is a Burhnam V7 with a RIELLO F5.
Ok so heres the thing recently one of the fuel lines lossened and it got a small air leak. I think after to much priming before i discovered the leak the oil pump might have been damaged. It has started to make a unusal sound Kinda like it has spun a bearing or something.
At the same time i feel like im burnng a exsessive amount of fuel. This leads me to the point that maybe its time I learned how to set up my burner myself and things like repairing or replacing the oil pump.
Over the years have used many people to do it.
Some come to clean the boiler an do a marginal job of vacuming and just change the nozzle. So it is time for me to learn how it should be done
My question is what is the best resource for the tools that i will need and basic knowledge to get started.
Look foward to some input.

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Old 01-26-08, 04:16 PM
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Not real familiar with the Riello burners... does it have the same fuel pump as the Becketts ? i.e. Suntec ... maybe an A2VA-7116 ? or perhaps the 'clean cut' version of that with the oil valve solenoid built in ?

In any case, there is a screen inside that should be changed periodically. Do you know if the service guys ever did that ?

Is the sound sorta like a 'whine' or a 'scream' ? Could be starved for oil ... ( high vacuum )
 
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Old 01-26-08, 05:25 PM
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Riello uses their own pump. It does have a screen which is easy to clean BUT there is also an o-ring seal for the cover. That o-ring often swells & has to be replaced when the cover is removed. You won't find them at home centers & probably not at your local plumbing supply house. You will likely have to go to an HVAC supply house or you can get the screen (Riello # 3005719) & o-ring (Riello # C7010002) from www.patriot-supply.com. Patriot has just about any Riello part you would ever need but it may take some looking (14 pages w/20 items per page).

The noise you hear could be the pump or the motor. Since the pump is far easier to remove, I suggest you remove it & start the burner. Noise still there? Bad bearings in motor= Replace motor.
 
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McGyver and burners should never be spoken in the same sentence or even the same post.
 
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As stated on another post it could be a vacuum issue. Riello pumps cannot produce the vacuum as Suntec so they will get noisey sooner. Is this a one pipe or two pipe fuel system? When was the fuel system cleaned last? I do not just mean the filter and nozzle.
 
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Originally Posted by Grady View Post
you can get the screen (Riello # 3005719) & o-ring (Riello # C7010002) from www.patriot-supply.com. Patriot has just about any Riello part you would ever need but it may take some looking
You can narrow down the search by using keywords ... but sometimes that doesn't even work well. You kinda need to know what you want... in this case though, you should be able to plug those part numbers into the search box and go right to the item.

Being on LI, you would get the parts from them in 1 day, or just drive over and pick them up ...
 
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There are plenty of Riello parts dealers on LI, but they close at 4 or 5 PM. Amityville, Hauppage, Bay Shore, Riverhead.
 
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I must be missing something here? Servicemen carry parts for other burners made by Carlin and Beckett, but Reillo's are black magic??

How much does this kit cost:

http://www.riello-burners.com/3_sales/5_spare-parts.asp
 
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Everybody else’s parts are pretty standard to the industry. Riello is not. They are good burners but only if the parts are readily available. When I worked for the oil co we did a lot of Riello. The efficiency is not much different for the aggravation if parts are not on local supply shelves and less service techs available to work on it. 1-2 points does not make a difference.
When I had oil I had a Riello but had the kit and know-how to service. We went to them 20 years ago because we locked in our customers. No one else was doing them then.
 
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Like rbeck's former company, we started using Riello 20-25 years ago because at the time we were the only ones around who could work on them. We've stayed with Riello because they are tough as nails. We have probably 200-300 Riellos in the field & most years we only have 1 or 2 service calls on them that are other than a fouled nozzle due to a dirty fuel system. The local supply houses stock all the parts but very few of each simply because they don't sell. Beckett, Carlin, & others have finally started using interupted igniton, oil valve on delay, electronic ignition, PSC burner motors, & increased pump pressure. All of these features have been on Riello as long as I've been working on them.

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Riello pump issue

First thing is you will need a pump tester with the ability to test the vacuum reading....otherwise riello wont ever talk to you if you need to call them. Second thing is, what a are you using for an oil filter...Riello's require garber spin on (or similar type) no restrictive oil filter.hows is you oil line run, overhead or on the ground, and where is the oil tank....is it underground or higher the burner???? lots of questions but these could all contribute to certian issues....
 
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DM, you do realize that this thread is over a year old, right? Just in case you hadn't noticed...
 
 

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