American Standard Gas Boiler Wiring
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American Standard Gas Boiler Wiring
I'm a new owner of an original boiler installed in the sixties. Is there anyway to get wiring diagram for my 1B J1 boiler. My Cir pump is running non stop because it's pig tailed hot from the main power and not in a circuit controlled by the tstat. Also, is there a way to check if the LWCO is working properly? Maybe this has been bypassed, which would explain why the pump isn't being controlled.
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Maybe you'll get lucky and someone will have that in a scrapbook someplace, but I doubt it.
Wiring should be fairly straightforward though... not very complicated stuff back then.
Does the LWCO appear to have been added much later ? It would be very unusual for a boiler of that vintage to have an LWCO installed as original equipment.
We might be able to help if we could see some pics of the system. You can set up a free account on www.photobucket.com and upload pics of your system showing the controls, etc ... please include at least one shot showing the 'big picture' ... then provide a link to the album so we can view the pics.
Wiring should be fairly straightforward though... not very complicated stuff back then.
Does the LWCO appear to have been added much later ? It would be very unusual for a boiler of that vintage to have an LWCO installed as original equipment.
We might be able to help if we could see some pics of the system. You can set up a free account on www.photobucket.com and upload pics of your system showing the controls, etc ... please include at least one shot showing the 'big picture' ... then provide a link to the album so we can view the pics.
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NJ Trooper, thanks for your reply and I really appreciate your assistance. Here are the pics.
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A few observations first:
The pipe from the pressure relief valve (the red valve with the elbow and pipe pointed down) should go down to within 6" of the floor. I'm not sure if that valve is an ASME rated relief valve or not, but if it's not, it should be changed to one that is.
On the left side, there are a valve or two that have been leaking. Might think about having those repaired eventually.
I don't see any sign of an LWCO (low water cut off) on your system.
I believe your system has been setup the way it is since day one. I don't think any controls are bypassed.
What does that toggle switch on the side of the electric box control ?
You could upgrade the controls most likely. I don't see any reason why a relay couldn't be added to control the circulator so that it only runs on a heat call. I can't really get enough info from the pics to tell you exactly _how_ to do that though.
Perhaps one of the fellas that has seen more of these older units can give some ideas.
The pipe from the pressure relief valve (the red valve with the elbow and pipe pointed down) should go down to within 6" of the floor. I'm not sure if that valve is an ASME rated relief valve or not, but if it's not, it should be changed to one that is.
On the left side, there are a valve or two that have been leaking. Might think about having those repaired eventually.
I don't see any sign of an LWCO (low water cut off) on your system.
I believe your system has been setup the way it is since day one. I don't think any controls are bypassed.
What does that toggle switch on the side of the electric box control ?
You could upgrade the controls most likely. I don't see any reason why a relay couldn't be added to control the circulator so that it only runs on a heat call. I can't really get enough info from the pics to tell you exactly _how_ to do that though.
Perhaps one of the fellas that has seen more of these older units can give some ideas.
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NJ Trooper, the leaky valve stems are also on my spring time maintenance list. Thanks for pointing out the relief valve, it's asme rated. I've attached a few more links/pics trying to show the three wires coming from the boiler. There are two red and one black wire. I was thinking those were coming from the LWCO. If they aren't, I wonder what they could be and why they're in the circuit.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...n/DSCN0134.jpg
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I'm not sure what's the purpose of the toggle switch. It has a high and low position, and neither position produces any change in operation of anything.
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http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...n/DSCN0143.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...n/DSCN0145.jpg
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I'm not sure what's the purpose of the toggle switch. It has a high and low position, and neither position produces any change in operation of anything.
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The cable coming in the top of the open box, is that the 120VAC supply ? and, do I see a white , black, and red (NOT CONNECTED) coming in ?
It appears that those small round black devices may be 'thermostats' of the bi-metal disc variety. They _may_ be some kind of high temperature cut-out device ... but there's just too many wires in the way to make sense of it all ...
It appears that the toggle switch is somehow wired to those devices, and perhaps selects between the two ...
The rectangular box on top of the boiler is an aquastat... which controls the burner. Shuts it off when the water hits the set temperature. Should be a temperature setting inside that box.
Is there a "macro" mode on your camera that would allow better focus ?
It appears that those small round black devices may be 'thermostats' of the bi-metal disc variety. They _may_ be some kind of high temperature cut-out device ... but there's just too many wires in the way to make sense of it all ...
It appears that the toggle switch is somehow wired to those devices, and perhaps selects between the two ...
The rectangular box on top of the boiler is an aquastat... which controls the burner. Shuts it off when the water hits the set temperature. Should be a temperature setting inside that box.
Is there a "macro" mode on your camera that would allow better focus ?