Need help with Buderus Installation Estimate


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Old 07-30-08, 11:34 AM
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Need help with Buderus Installation Estimate

Hi everyone. I'm replacing boiler/DHW heater and looking at replacing it with the Buderus G124X-25 boiler with a LT-300 indirect DHW tank and Ecomatic 2107 controller. I live in Northern NJ and would like opinions on what this system should cost installed. If anyone has any personal experience from installers in the area, that would be appreciated too.
 
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Old 07-30-08, 01:37 PM
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Just my opinion, but I wouldn't buy a conventional gas boiler. I'd get a condensing boiler.

I would guess that a Triangle Tube Prestige condensing boiler and a Smart tank-in-tank indirect wouldn't end up costing significantly different coin than what you've proposed but it would use far less fuel and you wouldn't haver anode rod replacements to worry about.
 
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I would guess somewhere between $2,000 and $15,000. Helpful, ain't it?

Seriously, there is no way to gauge what an installation would cost. Individual factors related to your home and existing piping, venting, boiler, etc. etc. are highly variable.

Also, what Who said. You can and should do a lot better than a conventional gas boiler. In the Buderus line, the GB-142 is their high-efficiency modulating/condensing offering. FWIW, the Triangle Tube system Who mentions is what I'd probably install if I were starting from scratch today.

Plus solar domestic hot water if your building is suitable for solar. Payback is as short as 4-6 years in many cases, and is easily incorporated into a new system with a boiler-fired indirect.
 
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I have looked at that same setup except with a G115WS. Expect to pay 8-10k with no major re-pipe.

I chose to wait and will just pay 20k in oil for the winter instead
 
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Similar Design in North Jersey

I also live in Northern NJ and last Oct while I was changing out my A/C unit I got a ball park estimate on my boiler and they told me about $8,000. Anyway, I just finished the installation myself during the spring and purchased the G124x/32 with the logmatic 2017 for $2,400 thorough Furgenson. I also had to puchase some miscellaneous pipe fittings, new black flow preventer, presure reducing valve, bladder tank, spirovent...etc which cost me another $300.00 from pex supply. So all together I did the whole installation for under $3,000. Next year, when my water heater turns 11 years old, I'll be installing the Buderus ST-150.
 
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Originally Posted by gvernt View Post
I just finished the installation myself during the spring and purchased the G124x/32 with the logmatic 2017 for $2,400 thorough Furgenson.
Who setup the burner for you? Do you think you will have a hard time finding someone to service it since it is a DIY?
 
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Setup Burner

Not sure what you mean by setting up the burner. The boiler is a gas boiler and according to Buderus installation manual I don't believe you don't need any special test equipment as long as your water temperature and boiler temperature are within specs. I already had PSEG (our local utility come over and look at it with regards to gas connections and flame color and they said it was fine). No problem. With regards to future repairs if I can't fixed it, I'll just call a local HVAC.
 
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Originally Posted by gvernt View Post
Not sure what you mean by setting up the burner. The boiler is a gas boiler and according to Buderus installation manual I don't believe you don't need any special test equipment as long as your water temperature and boiler temperature are within specs. I already had PSEG (our local utility come over and look at it with regards to gas connections and flame color and they said it was fine). No problem. With regards to future repairs if I can't fixed it, I'll just call a local HVAC.
My fault you did say it was gas. That quick I forgot
Post some pics of your install.
 
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Some Picts

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Thanks everyone for your input. I did get a quote for $10000 which I guess appears to be in the ballpark. I did look at a solar DWH system that was going to cost $6800. When I ran the #'s, the payback was 15yrs (even w/tax credit). These short payback periods only seem to work when you are converting from electric. Nice install gvernt. Are you available ?
 
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Burner Set-Up

Originally Posted by gvernt View Post
Not sure what you mean by setting up the burner. The boiler is a gas boiler and according to Buderus installation manual I don't believe you don't need any special test equipment as long as your water temperature and boiler temperature are within specs. I already had PSEG (our local utility come over and look at it with regards to gas connections and flame color and they said it was fine). No problem. With regards to future repairs if I can't fixed it, I'll just call a local HVAC.
All the local gas utility did was to inspect the piping & "look at the flame color"? OMG!!!!

Any fuel burning appliance needs to have a proper & complete combustion analysis. One CANNOT tell how much CO an appliance is producing by looking at the flame nor how efficiently it is running.
 
 

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