Location of low water cutoff


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Old 12-27-08, 07:11 AM
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Location of low water cutoff

Hello -

I just had a new steam boiler installed and
frequently the water drops below the bottom of
the sight glass but the burner does not shut down and the
auto fill doesn't run.

My theory is that the low water sensor is located incorrectly.
I think t should be mounted level to the middle of the
sight glass rather than below it.

a picture can be found here:
Flickr: dmslater1962's Photostream

Any thoughts?

Thanks -

Dave
 
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I'd suggest referring to the manufacturer's piping diagram in the boiler's I/O manual.
 
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I've been staring at that picture and wondering why the boiler drain to the left is mounted so high? I wonder........
 
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Old 12-27-08, 08:27 AM
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Normal operation of the boiler water level is anywhere within the site glass view. This varies depending on system, cycle and conditions.

Manufacturers vary but the norm for a low water cut-off to activate is about 2-3" below bottom of site glass. Many feeders will be set up to fill water back to bottom of site glass to allow boiler to fire but leave room in vessel for condensate as it returns.

Grouchy, That boiler drain appears to be a poor attempt at a skim port.
 

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The Low Water Cut Off is mounted where the boiler drain should be,
The boiler drain is where the LWCO should be.
Shut of power.
Drain down the boiler.
Remove the cover from the LWCO ,remove wing nut from probe. Loosen 2 screws from mount around probe by twisting slightly in the screw slots.

Remove boiler drain and probe. Several wraps of teflon tape on each. Install where the other came from.

Reconnect LWCO and probe wire.( Watch for final placement of mounting screws) Fill to proper level and check for leaks.

Start boiler, lower water level, observe boiler shut off.(Hopefully)
 
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Old 12-27-08, 08:49 AM
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Good catch Ed

It couldn't have been more obvious if I had looked.

Just another installer that doesn't look at the picture book
 
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Old 12-28-08, 05:11 AM
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Wink Thanks!

Thanks for the info! Now

I need to get the plumber in to
move the LWC and the drain.

Dave
 
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Good catch ED. To correct ZL700 the manufacturer will give you the proper water level to maintain (manually not with the auto filler) and the LWCO must shut down the boiler with water in the gage glass, through normal operation. It will normally be done with about an inch of water still available. This is code the manufacturers must follow. The steam must always be 98% dry. That is also another reason for proper near boiler piping, Normal water level positions and manual feed and the use of an auto feeder used for emergency use only.
The shutdown function does not include surging as the water level in the glass and the water level in the boiler are different when surging. Surging must be resolved on new installs.
 
 

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