Raising boiler pressure
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I have an oil fired hot water baseboard heating system in my home. 7 zones...pretty standard system for Nova Scotia.
The furnace is located in the basement.
When all zones are shut off the pressure gauge reads an exact 10psi.
when an upstairs zone comes 'online' the pressure drops to 4 psi and sometimes 8 psi...depending on the intiail temperature of the boiler.
For example....if the respective zone opened when the boiler happened to be at 'cold' say 160 degrees, then the pressure would drop down to 4 psi and slowly increase to 8 psi when the system heated up to the high temp shutoff of 200 degrees.
If the zone happened to open when the boiler was already warmed up ...around 200 degrees. then the pressure usually stabilizes at 8 psi.
the downstairs zones (same level as furnace) give an initial 10 psi when the system is warm and 8 psi when the system is cold.
I have listened to the circulation pump and will 'occationally' hear some air bubbles being passed,but otherwise it sounds normal. I have installed new airerators on the high points of the system,and they seem to work normally.
A new expansiion tank has also been installed.
I have only been in the house for 6 months, but it is 8 years old....not leaks have been detected anywhere.
Thanks for your help
- Jim
I have an oil fired hot water baseboard heating system in my home. 7 zones...pretty standard system for Nova Scotia.
The furnace is located in the basement.
When all zones are shut off the pressure gauge reads an exact 10psi.
when an upstairs zone comes 'online' the pressure drops to 4 psi and sometimes 8 psi...depending on the intiail temperature of the boiler.
For example....if the respective zone opened when the boiler happened to be at 'cold' say 160 degrees, then the pressure would drop down to 4 psi and slowly increase to 8 psi when the system heated up to the high temp shutoff of 200 degrees.
If the zone happened to open when the boiler was already warmed up ...around 200 degrees. then the pressure usually stabilizes at 8 psi.
the downstairs zones (same level as furnace) give an initial 10 psi when the system is warm and 8 psi when the system is cold.
I have listened to the circulation pump and will 'occationally' hear some air bubbles being passed,but otherwise it sounds normal. I have installed new airerators on the high points of the system,and they seem to work normally.
A new expansiion tank has also been installed.
I have only been in the house for 6 months, but it is 8 years old....not leaks have been detected anywhere.
Thanks for your help
- Jim
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First off the pressure change is affected by temperature. A system pressure in the boiler under 12 is not good ever. Sounds like the system is low on pressure. Secondly you never want to have auto air vents up in the system.
The noises are air and low water pressure issues.
The noises are air and low water pressure issues.
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Hello;
It appears that I have to raise the water pressure in my boiler system.
(Thanks rbeck for the reply)
My next question is how do I safely raise the boiler pressure? I know that I add water through the water feed valve...just want to make sure I do it correctly.
thanks.
It appears that I have to raise the water pressure in my boiler system.
(Thanks rbeck for the reply)
My next question is how do I safely raise the boiler pressure? I know that I add water through the water feed valve...just want to make sure I do it correctly.
thanks.
Last edited by NJT; 01-10-10 at 09:09 AM. Reason: merged threads
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Jim, I merged your threads on this issue... no need to start a new one for the same issue...
Usually the pressure gauge will remain fairly stable whether the pump is running or not... but depending on where the gauge is placed in relation to the pumps it could change a few psi...
I would like to see pics of the system. That's the best way to advise you which valves to turn, etc... in particular, look for the water line running from your domestic water supply over to the boiler and get pics of that, in addition to some wider shots showing the whole thing.
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Usually the pressure gauge will remain fairly stable whether the pump is running or not... but depending on where the gauge is placed in relation to the pumps it could change a few psi...
I would like to see pics of the system. That's the best way to advise you which valves to turn, etc... in particular, look for the water line running from your domestic water supply over to the boiler and get pics of that, in addition to some wider shots showing the whole thing.
Free account / Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket / upload there / drop a link here for us to view.
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ok...I have sucessfully raised the pressure to 15 psi. SO now, when all zones are OFF the pressure is stable at 15 psi. When a zones. or zones come on line, then the pressure falls to a steady 10 psi.
is this normal?
is this normal?
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Sorry....still trying to attach the link so you can see the picture. If it helps, it is a NY Thermal boiler system with the gauge located on the front of the unit....pressure on top and temperature on the bottom.
Having said that, I am not sure where the pressure sense would be taken.
Having said that, I am not sure where the pressure sense would be taken.
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On where? Photobucket?
Go to your album front page, highlight everything in the address bar, right click, COPY, then come back here and PASTE it into a message.
Go to your album front page, highlight everything in the address bar, right click, COPY, then come back here and PASTE it into a message.
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OK. Not a great picture, but let me know if it will do.
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OK, that's a start... now, where is the pump that circulates the water? I need to see all around the system... take some more pics please.
Looking at just this one pic, I find it odd that the pressure gauge would drop when the pump runs.
See that plate on the left side of the boiler with all the rust around it? The coil for your domestic hot water is behind that plate. It appears as if the gasket has been leaking for quite a while. That's not good... something that should probably be repaired before it gets past repairing...
Looking at just this one pic, I find it odd that the pressure gauge would drop when the pump runs.
See that plate on the left side of the boiler with all the rust around it? The coil for your domestic hot water is behind that plate. It appears as if the gasket has been leaking for quite a while. That's not good... something that should probably be repaired before it gets past repairing...
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OK. Here are some additional pics. The previous photo was an old one....that domestic water plate was fixed some time ago. As you can see the circulator pump is above the unit.
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