Closely spaced Tees or a Hydro-Sep
#1
09-27-10, 09:14 AM
Closely spaced Tees or a Hydro-Sep
I am planning a P/S setup for my space heating circuit, and was originally planning on doing so with closely spaced Tees. Recently, I stumbled across this product from Taco:
Hydro-Sep.
Seems to accomplish the same thing, at much higher price
Any reason to use this thing? Any advantage to it over closely spaced Tees?
Hydro-Sep.
Seems to accomplish the same thing, at much higher price
Any reason to use this thing? Any advantage to it over closely spaced Tees?
#2
09-27-10, 07:45 PM
That's neat. Didn't know they were making them that small now. Lots of them out there. Caleffi, Taco, B&G, Watts, many others.
Nice because it puts air elimination at the lowest flow in the system. Nice because it provides a place for crud to settle and be easily drained off (and now you can probably ditch the wye-strainer). Nice because it's easier and quicker for many people, some of whom might mess up doing their closely-spaced tees. Not so nice on price since on a DIY job labor is "free" (not!), but for a contractor that price probably competes well with the time spent doing layout, piping closely-spaced tees, as well as time spent making sure the new apprentice doesn't mess up the tee measurements, and redoing if he does....
Nice because it puts air elimination at the lowest flow in the system. Nice because it provides a place for crud to settle and be easily drained off (and now you can probably ditch the wye-strainer). Nice because it's easier and quicker for many people, some of whom might mess up doing their closely-spaced tees. Not so nice on price since on a DIY job labor is "free" (not!), but for a contractor that price probably competes well with the time spent doing layout, piping closely-spaced tees, as well as time spent making sure the new apprentice doesn't mess up the tee measurements, and redoing if he does....
#3
09-28-10, 04:48 PM
Yeah, they are pricey little buggers... somebody with a Tee-Drill and a brazing torch could probably make them in their garage and turn a tidy profit... 2" copper type L is about $20 a foot... a few fittings... etc... I think there's a stainless 'screen' inside separating the two halves.
In spite of the price, I would probably use one if I could fit it in the budget... but a 'boiler buddy' might be my first choice, if I had the floor space ( Boiler Buddy - Overview ).
In spite of the price, I would probably use one if I could fit it in the budget... but a 'boiler buddy' might be my first choice, if I had the floor space ( Boiler Buddy - Overview ).
#4
09-28-10, 05:09 PM
Well, I soldered up my own closely spaced T's today. Not really sure what the big deal is. Yeah, sweating 1.25" pipe is a pita, but with an air-acetylene torch, not a big deal. The fact that I can build it on the bench and then fit everything else around it helps...
Yeah, the boiler buddy is nice. If I find that there's a shortcycling problem, I'll have to think about putting in one of those.
Yeah, the boiler buddy is nice. If I find that there's a shortcycling problem, I'll have to think about putting in one of those.
#5
09-28-10, 06:19 PM
I don't see the big deal either... I'm at my happiest when I have fire in my hands. Gimmee fuel, gimmee fire, gimmee that which I desire!
The BoilerBuddy is just a HydroSep on Steroids...
The BoilerBuddy is just a HydroSep on Steroids...
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