is this quote for replacement boiler reasonable?

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is this quote for replacement boiler reasonable?

I just got a quote for $9200 to replace my 24-year old gas boiler with a new Lochinvar Knight WBN105. The installation (by a reputable company) includes zone controllers (I have 3 zones) and valves, control panel, air eliminator and expansion tank, fill and backflow preventer, drain and combustion venting new piping/valves and wooden wall for mounting everything, electrical wiring, removal and disposal of old equipment, and all permits and inspections.

I need to let them know soon so I can get the gas and tax credits, so any help would be appreciated.

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Old 12-17-10, 08:54 AM
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Get at least another one so you can compare. These are the prices I have seen. How about How water? See if they will throw a indirect HWH for the same $$$$.

Most plumbers have pictures of thier installs. Did you see any?

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Thanks Mike

I'll get another quote. What did you mean by "these are the prices I've seen"?
Did you mean it's typical or did you mean to include a link?

He did show me a picture of their install...very neat, high quality layout on black-painted plywood wall.

If I could do this myself I would but I'm not licensed and have never done it before...probably too big of a job for me.

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I paid $9k for my Burnham ES2, Burnham Alliance indirect, piped 2nd rads to be a separate zone, and included all the essentials like 3 zone valves, pump, exp tank, etc. This was less than other quotes I had for similar setups.
 
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I am saying prices that the plumbers I worked for here in NJ charged.

This is a higher end boiler and cost more then a standard cast iron boiler.

The last boiler similiar to yours I saw installed through a company I worked for ran about 12,500.00. But this was one of those franchise type companys. I would always prefer the old guy working out of a van.

Lets put it this way if I bought that boiler for my home and installed myself with a indirect HWH and materials it would cost me around 5,000. So your quote of 9,200 he is getting 4,200 labor. I dont think that is unreasonable. Two guys two days start to final touches.....

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thank you guys...that's just what I needed to know.

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I was quoted $10,000 for the same thing, but included hot water heater.
 
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I'm thinking that you should be able to negotiate an indirect water heater for little, or no more $$$ . It's sure worth a try! Nothin' to lose, a lot to gain!
 
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Was a heat loss done to determine a 105, as opposed to an 80 or even a 50 if you're not heating domestic hot water?

Pricing aside, sizing makes a big difference, even with a modcon.
 
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Yeah, how did we miss that? Thanks Xiphias!

A smaller boiler should also be a bit less $$$ and might give you a bargaining edge to getting the indirect with the package...

How many square feet is your home?
 
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My new mod/con boiler (Viessmann 100) and indirect HW tank cost $12,830 and was installed last week. Although it's certainly quieter than my old copper boiler, I'm very disappointed in the performance. The system (one zone) only has to heat one floor (1600 sq. ft.) The contractor said we could set back temp 6 at night. This week, outside temps are high of mid 30s, lows of low 20s. Since installation it's taken a full 8 hours for the inside temp to go from 61 at 6am to 66 at 2pm. Today, its the same. The recovery time to bring the heat up to 66 (the max high we set it at and certainly chilly for most people) is slower than with my 30-year-old system. Either he installed a too small boiler or its incorrectly set up. The boiler is set at 5.5 with the max being 6 (set point is 5). Now Im worried that one bidder on our job was right when he said a mod/con doesnt work efficiently with baseboard radiators. Beware!
 
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