Hydronic Heating taking a long time to reach desired temperature


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Old 02-01-14, 05:37 AM
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Hydronic Heating taking a long time to reach desired temperature

I had the zone valve stuck open last week and while trouble shooting the issue I reset my thermostat. I was able to get the zone valve to work properly again (when it was fully open the temp reached 80F) while it was 10F outside.

I noticed that it takes longer for the temperature to increase, today for example, at night I have 69, than at 7:00am the thermostat demands 73, however, after an hour and a half, the temperature is 71 and slowly going up, where as before it was 73 when I woke up and it seems like the heat went up faster.

Below are the settings I have in the thermostat Honeywell TH4110D1007

System Type: set to 0 (Gas, oil or electric heat with air conditioning)

Heating Cycle Rate: set to 3 (for hot water systems & furnaces of less than 90% efficiency

Compressor Cycle Rate: Set to 3

Adaptive Intelligent Recovery: Set to 0 (OFF)

Compressor Protection: Set to 5 (5 min cool off time)

I just don't understand how after 1.5 hours it only went up 2 degrees and the baseboards are warm and not hot.

I don't think it's a boilder issue, but than again, I don't know what it can be?

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Old 02-01-14, 06:16 AM
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The adaptive intelligent recovery will help you reach target at the time you request.
Aside from that, can you post the pressure and temp of the boiler while it's running?
It's also possible that the zone valve isn't working correctly again. It may not be opening all the way and limiting flow to the zone. Consider replacing it or at least verify that it's opening and closing correctly. Usually when they start to give some trouble, there in need of replacement.
Is the other zone heating correctly?
 
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Old 02-01-14, 06:38 AM
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Also what is the make and model of the boiler? And as tom stated the pressure and temp reading on the boiler gauge...
 
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Yes, the other zone is heating correctly. I am not home right now but from what I remember the boiler would get to about 195 temp and pressure would increase from 10 to 22 when running. My wife said the temp is 73 now (took about 2 hours). My gas bill was almost like 180 last month for 2 zones. Zone 1 is basement (now I keep it at 65 and it was at 70, about 500SF) and 1st floor (about 900SF). We had it on 74 during the day and 70 at night, It was a very very cold month in NJ so maybe that's why we got the excessive bill, in Nov it was much less.

Anyhow, once I am able to, I will check the pressure and temp when it's running and post it.
 
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A lot of issues with the boilers operating properly in NJ from what I see is dirty baseboards... Or stuff piled in front of them..

Example: My neighbors boiler was operating correctly.. His house whould not get past 56-59 degrees... I told him the boiler was working and he needed to clean his baseboard and move the crap away from it...

To compensate temporarily I raised the temp in his boiler to around the 200f mark.

So if your boiler is making 180F water and funtioning normal its either not enough radiation, or very dirty radiation....
 
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It's amazing how much even a light coating of dust on the BOTTOM of the baseboard fins can kill the heat output...

But I agree that the zone valve operation needs to be verified too.

The adaptive recovery 'learns' over time the heating patterns of your home and will begin the recovery early if it determines that it needs to. After turning it on, give it some time to collect enough data to make a decision.

But, do the other stuff too...
 
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The baseboard covers are brand new, this house was renovated in 2013. I will check under the covers and look how dirty it is, is there a recommended way of cleaning it?

I will change the valve, the expansion tank, and do maintenance on it in the spring/summer because right now it's too cold to mess around with it. It reached 73 after 2 hours.

Is that thermostat good or should I get something better like the one you can control via your cell phone app?
 
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is there a recommended way of cleaning it?
COVERS are new? But not the internals? Could be dust in the fins from past decades.

Remove covers, upholstery brush on vacuum cleaner... any other kind of brush that you can find if you need to loosen the dust between the fins.

Thermostat is fine if it's working. Only reason to change to one of them fancy schmancy thermostats is if you are a 'gadget freak'. After turning on and off the boiler in response to room temp, everything else is just bells and whistles.
 
 

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