Erratic burner and pump behavior: aquastat ?
#1
03-16-17, 08:55 AM
Erratic burner and pump behavior: aquastat ?
Hi everyone. I just found this forum and what an amazing group of experts. Hoping someone can give some insight on this odd issue with my Aquastat.
I have an older oil fired boiler- single zone, no heating coil. The Aquastat is a Honeywell R8182D. The old aquastat developed a buzz in the burner relay and then stopped functioning. I bought a replacement and installed it and now I have some really weird behavior.
The old one was wired to exclude the LO/DIFF- so the black and white wires jumped together. When I wired up the new one the exact same way (and I have check and rechecked the wiring, including redoing it a few times) - the circulator pump will immediately begin running on start up, but the burner never fires.
When I rewire the control to include the LO/DIFF then both the circulator and the burner immediately fire up, but only go until the LO limit is reached, then they shut down, even though the high limit is set 30 degrees higher. I have jumped the TT to eliminate the possibility of the thermostat.
Any ideas? Thanks!
I have an older oil fired boiler- single zone, no heating coil. The Aquastat is a Honeywell R8182D. The old aquastat developed a buzz in the burner relay and then stopped functioning. I bought a replacement and installed it and now I have some really weird behavior.
The old one was wired to exclude the LO/DIFF- so the black and white wires jumped together. When I wired up the new one the exact same way (and I have check and rechecked the wiring, including redoing it a few times) - the circulator pump will immediately begin running on start up, but the burner never fires.
When I rewire the control to include the LO/DIFF then both the circulator and the burner immediately fire up, but only go until the LO limit is reached, then they shut down, even though the high limit is set 30 degrees higher. I have jumped the TT to eliminate the possibility of the thermostat.
Any ideas? Thanks!
#2
03-16-17, 09:30 AM
j,
What did you replace the aqustat with. The 8182D is a triple action used when you have a tankless coil. By them jumping out the low limit they made it into a cold start application so it only ran on a demand for heat.
When you replaced it you could have just bought Honeywell L7224U Oil Electronic Aquastat which gives you the option of low limit or just cold start which is what you need.
Hope this helps a little.
What did you replace the aqustat with. The 8182D is a triple action used when you have a tankless coil. By them jumping out the low limit they made it into a cold start application so it only ran on a demand for heat.
When you replaced it you could have just bought Honeywell L7224U Oil Electronic Aquastat which gives you the option of low limit or just cold start which is what you need.
Hope this helps a little.
#3
03-16-17, 09:42 AM
Member
Hi, here is a link I found that may shed some light on your situation.
Aquastat settings: Best High, Low, & DIFF Settings on a Heating Boiler Aquastat
Aquastat settings: Best High, Low, & DIFF Settings on a Heating Boiler Aquastat
Last edited by PJmax; 03-16-17 at 10:38 AM. Reason: link corrected
#6
03-16-17, 10:34 AM
Member
Hi, assuming you installed the L7224 replacement did you follow the programing steps in the instructions?
Geo
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#7
03-16-17, 10:39 AM
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#8
03-16-17, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the quick thoughts, everyone. I replaced it with an identical model R8182D, but a used one. So, I suppose there could be an issue there- but the seller assured me it worked. So, I was hoping it was just something in the wiring I haven't considered. I have been through all the documentation on the inspectipedia site and the manual and nothing seems to apply.
I did actually, last night, order the L7224U and it should be here tomorrow. But, when I was looking at the instructions, I did not see FF terminals for the Cad Cell, like the R8182D has. So, I got concerned that it wouldn't work as a direct replacement. Does anyone have any idea if it can work?
I did actually, last night, order the L7224U and it should be here tomorrow. But, when I was looking at the instructions, I did not see FF terminals for the Cad Cell, like the R8182D has. So, I got concerned that it wouldn't work as a direct replacement. Does anyone have any idea if it can work?
#9
03-16-17, 02:56 PM
j,
Where all your connections were made into the 8182D you will now have to add an oil burner primary control. There are a few out there like the Honeywell R8184G4009 Oil Burner Control but if you are going electronic and want an upgrade you can get the
Honeywell R7284U-1004 Universal Electronic Oil Primary with Programmable Parameters and LCD Display.
They make a good pair and you get the LED display to see what is going on. Makes trouble shooting a little easier.
You may have to do a little additional wiring. The new primary will mount on top of your motor to the burner chassis on a 4 x 4 handy box or a box made for Becket burners if that is what you have.
Hope this helps a little.
Where all your connections were made into the 8182D you will now have to add an oil burner primary control. There are a few out there like the Honeywell R8184G4009 Oil Burner Control but if you are going electronic and want an upgrade you can get the
Honeywell R7284U-1004 Universal Electronic Oil Primary with Programmable Parameters and LCD Display.
They make a good pair and you get the LED display to see what is going on. Makes trouble shooting a little easier.
You may have to do a little additional wiring. The new primary will mount on top of your motor to the burner chassis on a 4 x 4 handy box or a box made for Becket burners if that is what you have.
Hope this helps a little.
#11
03-17-17, 08:13 AM
I did actually, last night, order the L7224U and it should be here tomorrow. But, when I was looking at the instructions, I did not see FF terminals for the Cad Cell, like the R8182D has. So, I got concerned that it wouldn't work as a direct replacement. Does anyone have any idea if it can work?
You want a Honeywell R72894U Universal Digital Primary control for $60 a saving of $79.00
https://forwardthinking.honeywell.co...u_feature.html
http://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell...ic-Oil-Primary
Last edited by doughess; 03-17-17 at 08:42 AM.
#12
03-17-17, 10:29 AM
d,
With all due respect if your aquastat is defective you don't replace it with a primary control. They are 2 different animals as I thought you knew.
If he just got the primary control that would not solve his aquastat problems. In this case by replacing his 8182D which were made so you didn't need a primary control since all the connections including the cad cell were included in the aquastat. With the new Honeywell L7224U-1002 you must use a primary because there are no CC terminals included and therefore no safety or reset built in. The new primary will now have the safety and reset button.
This is just my thoughts on the matter in case I misunderstood your post.
With all due respect if your aquastat is defective you don't replace it with a primary control. They are 2 different animals as I thought you knew.
If he just got the primary control that would not solve his aquastat problems. In this case by replacing his 8182D which were made so you didn't need a primary control since all the connections including the cad cell were included in the aquastat. With the new Honeywell L7224U-1002 you must use a primary because there are no CC terminals included and therefore no safety or reset built in. The new primary will now have the safety and reset button.
This is just my thoughts on the matter in case I misunderstood your post.
