Concrete flower bed

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Old 03-01-16, 10:45 AM
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Concrete flower bed

A tree's multi-root system knocked the rebar right out this concrete flower bed border.
How would you fix this?

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First step would be to remove the tree.
 
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There is no "fixing it".
I agree 100% tree needs to go.
Unless that concrete curb was laid over a proper footing it's not going to work.
 
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You could line it back up, remove the loose, build a form and pour in a concrete patch but even with the tree removed it will still be a temporary fix. As Joe pointed out you'd need some sort of footer for it to be able to withstand the test of time.
 
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Old 03-02-16, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stickshift
First step would be to remove the tree.
Thanks!
Tree has been removed.
 
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Old 03-12-16, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by joecaption
There is no "fixing it".
I agree 100% tree needs to go.
Unless that concrete curb was laid over a proper footing it's not going to work.
How do I tell if that concrete curb was laid over a proper footing or not?
 
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Generally there is a concrete footer poured down to the frost line and at least 1' wide, since it isn't structural a gravel footer is probably acceptable. From the pics it looks like it was just formed up over the grade and poured [sitting on top of the ground]
 
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Mark, I think the OP is in Florida. You'll probably hit water before you reach the frost line.

It's not a structural piece, just a flower bed border. I would just put it back in place, build a form and pour new concrete around the damaged part.
 
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My memory isn't all that great but I'm thinking the 'official' frost line for central fla is 8" IMO it is more about having a stable base than any frost heave worries
 
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The mythical "frost depth" really only applies for structures based on the likelihood for 50 to 100 years that would cause structural damage. I have see the frost to go down 6" after aver a month of days with lows of -5F to -40F and highs below -0F. There was only a few inches of snow for protection.

Landscaping is not applicable unless there is major heaving to cause.

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Old 03-13-16, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cwbuff
Mark, I think the OP is in Florida. You'll probably hit water before you reach the frost line.
South Florida...Broward County.

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It's not a structural piece, just a flower bed border. I would just put it back in place, build a form and pour new concrete around the damaged part.
How would you go about putting it back in place?
 
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Old 04-05-16, 11:12 AM
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I dug down to bottom of concrete flower bed until I hit sand...
Anybody have input on how you would go about moving this sucker back in place?
 
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Dig it out completely and you should be able to move it with little effort, I believe.
 
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Move it how and with what?
 
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if its free'd up, a crowbar & 2x4 between bar & curb
 
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Thanks!
I was thinking I could try to use a crow bar to hook it from underneath to try to move the bottom back first. How exactly would you use the 2x4 between bar & curb?
 

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