Stucco Area To Replace Under Pillar
#1
09-04-20, 05:42 PM
Stucco Area To Replace Under Pillar
I have an area under a Pillar in the images below where the stucco failed. The material that came off behind the outer stucco looks like a mortar or concrete was under the stucco.
What is the best way to repair this area in terms of the concrete, mortar and stucco? What materials would I need to get from home depot?
I want to keep moisture out to ensure the metal does not rust. I've already sanded the rust off the metal and painted it with Rust-Oleum.
What is the best way to repair this area in terms of the concrete, mortar and stucco? What materials would I need to get from home depot?
I want to keep moisture out to ensure the metal does not rust. I've already sanded the rust off the metal and painted it with Rust-Oleum.
Last edited by John Jone; 09-04-20 at 05:52 PM. Reason: Attachments
#2
09-05-20, 03:10 PM
We need a little more context. Is the top photo before you removed any stucco?
Was that whole column stuccoed up to just above the numeral 3? How thick was it? What was behind the stucco? CAn you remove the mortar or concrete down to the depth of the steel yo show in the second picture?
Is the ledge covering more of the anchor bent out toward us in the picture or is that anchor bracket a "U" shape?
Did that bracket always show before you removed anything?
By "stucco" do you mean only the texture visible to the eye? It looks like there is nothing over the upper column except a paint with aggregate in it.Is the bottom of the column resting on a chunk of poured concrete? Aesthetically I think this is an easy fix. I don't have a good idea yet how to protect the steel.
Was that whole column stuccoed up to just above the numeral 3? How thick was it? What was behind the stucco? CAn you remove the mortar or concrete down to the depth of the steel yo show in the second picture?
Is the ledge covering more of the anchor bent out toward us in the picture or is that anchor bracket a "U" shape?
Did that bracket always show before you removed anything?
By "stucco" do you mean only the texture visible to the eye? It looks like there is nothing over the upper column except a paint with aggregate in it.Is the bottom of the column resting on a chunk of poured concrete? Aesthetically I think this is an easy fix. I don't have a good idea yet how to protect the steel.
#3
09-06-20, 03:08 AM
To protect the steel I'd clean off as much rust as I could and then apply a coat or two of a rust inhibitive primer.
Mookdogg
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#4
09-06-20, 03:59 PM
Is the top photo before you removed any stucco? Correct this is before the outer stucco was removed.
Was that whole column stuccoed up to just above the numeral 3? The concrete is only up to the bottom of the column (the left side of the picture with #3 shows heights of concrete). It's basically a concrete pedestal. The concrete and stucco that was pulled out covered the bottom bracket where it is rusted. It about as thick as shown in the image perhaps 1 in that was pulled. I assume water got behind it. I can not remove the mortar anymore as it is in the concrete patio. The bracket has been sanded and painted there was a little pealing of some rust off the bottom bracket. Looks like the vertical bracket has a steel plate sitting on the top of the concrete, you can kind of see in the image under the pole. Below is an image of the other side before I removed the wood box around the pole.
Did that bracket always show before you removed anything? The bracket was behind the concrete/stucco before I removed it.
It looks like there is nothing over the upper column except a paint with aggregate in it.Is the bottom of the column resting on a chunk of poured concrete? Aesthetically I think this is an easy fix. I don't have a good idea yet how to protect the steel.: The upper column has a wood box around it shown in the new image. The column is resting on the pedestal of pored concrete.
Was that whole column stuccoed up to just above the numeral 3? The concrete is only up to the bottom of the column (the left side of the picture with #3 shows heights of concrete). It's basically a concrete pedestal. The concrete and stucco that was pulled out covered the bottom bracket where it is rusted. It about as thick as shown in the image perhaps 1 in that was pulled. I assume water got behind it. I can not remove the mortar anymore as it is in the concrete patio. The bracket has been sanded and painted there was a little pealing of some rust off the bottom bracket. Looks like the vertical bracket has a steel plate sitting on the top of the concrete, you can kind of see in the image under the pole. Below is an image of the other side before I removed the wood box around the pole.
Did that bracket always show before you removed anything? The bracket was behind the concrete/stucco before I removed it.
It looks like there is nothing over the upper column except a paint with aggregate in it.Is the bottom of the column resting on a chunk of poured concrete? Aesthetically I think this is an easy fix. I don't have a good idea yet how to protect the steel.: The upper column has a wood box around it shown in the new image. The column is resting on the pedestal of pored concrete.
#5
09-06-20, 06:17 PM
Now that the tie-in bracket is exposed, have you considered replacing the wrap around 2X so that it extends down to the concrete? Aside from being very simple, it would prevent the moisture issue with the bracket as you could cut the 2x such that there is an air gap.
#6
09-08-20, 03:20 PM
#8
09-08-20, 04:23 PM
from here there 2 options: fix bad connection or restore metal, prime paint go with whats there.
#9
09-08-20, 06:09 PM
I think you may have the problem again but the repair is pretty simple. Paint the edges of the stucco and the bracket with a bonding agent like Weld-Crete by Larsen's Products. I think that is only available in gallons and five gallons. There are other brands in quarts. I think QuickCrete makes one. A few ounces is all you need. Get some quick setting concrete patch and fill in and cover over and then just as it sets float it with a sponge float to give it some finish and shape it up. If the bracket rusts again you will have to do this again in time. I don't really know how to prevent the rust. Some good sealant in the right place might help.
Mookdogg
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[u][b]Here's where the wall is at:[/b][/u]
Started by laying foundation of #5 gravel, then leveled and flattened w/ layer of gravel screenings (which is supposed to be just like sand). Added corrugated drainage pipe w/ slits and sleeve to help with drainage.
The bottom row is presently above the future grade of the ground, but I plan to back cover with more gravel screenings and top soil to at least 1/2 if not 1 full row of block (more than likely 1/2 gravel screenings, 1/2 topsoil).
Thanks again for any advice. If I could do it all over again...I'd go with better block and have a pro install it - hindsight is 20-20 :( As it is, I figure might as well finish the job and hope it lasts at least a few years, and then have a pro install a professional grade wall when this one fails.
