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Old 03-29-09, 10:19 PM
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Hello,

I know this is a DYI forum but need some knowledgable opinions on some work that I hired someone to do. I don't know the term to describe it, but basically hang some cedar 2'x6' boards from one end of the porch to the other (10 feet). (Please see pics)

When I saw his work I was a bit surprised he didn't use some sort of bracket to support the boards against the roof frame. I don't know much about carpentry but in 100 degree weather with 80% humidity, are those nails going to hold for long?! Should I go out and get some mounting brackets? Also, should I seal the cedar with something? I fear those things will come crashing down on someone.

I am considering building a gazebo and would like to know if this guy did a fair job because frankly he works cheap lol.

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Old 03-30-09, 03:39 AM
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You've shown us macro pix of what we could see from a normal pix shot. He used non hot dipped galvanized nails or stainless, which should have been used. If this was to be in an area where it will be exposed, I would have used deck grade, torx head screws and would have countersunk them. You will have rust marks forever when those nails begin deteriorating.
Post a couple of pix of this installation from standing back a little so we can see the purpose of the wood. It may help us give better advice.
 
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Chandler is correct. This guy does NOT know how to do what he should be doing.
Wrong nails, toe-nailed (side) through the pickets, naied above the board- instead of below (out of sight), over-cut his notches on the wrong side of board, over-sized notches, open knot-hole showing, bad joint angle, and possibly used the wrong type board for the application, but .............."he works cheap lol" I'm sorry that you got less than you paid for ------maybe you didn't ? Be safe, GBR
 
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Is this really the suppost for a porch coming off the roof? Or is it rather a purgola over a porch?

I think anyone knows that this will not support a herd of elephants or anything.

You ended your post with an "LOL". You must have already known your answer -LOL.
 
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He looks like a professional hacker to me. Not bad for a cabin in the woods that you would expect to use for a few years. He does show consistency and good nail spacing LOL! Personally I would not accept anything but some kind of simpson strap/bracket with galv nails or deck screws. But depends where you are.
 
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Even adding brackets will not do much good as the boards are nailed to a piece of 1x that is the facia on the end of the rafters/ceiling joist (it's hard to tell what it is exactly). The 1x is only attached with 2-3 nails in each rafter. The facia should have been removed and the pergola framing, (for lack of a better term), run back along side of the rafter/ceiling joist, resting on the top plate if possible and nailed properly. Next time pay the $$$ for a qualified contractor to do work on your home. I have seen time and time again how the "cheap" contractor wound up costing homeowners way more than they saved on the original job.

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The facia should have been removed and .......
I think he is right -especially if we are talking any serious weight to be applied from above. That of which none of us knows for sure.
 
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Even adding brackets will not do much good as the boards are nailed to a piece of 1x that is the facia on the end of the rafters/ceiling joist (it's hard to tell what it is exactly). The 1x is only attached with 2-3 nails in each rafter. The facia should have been removed and the pergola framing, (for lack of a better term), run back along side of the rafter/ceiling joist, resting on the top plate if possible and nailed properly. Next time pay the $$$ for a qualified contractor to do work on your home. I have seen time and time again how the "cheap" contractor wound up costing homeowners way more than they saved on the original job.

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