Need input for what type of wood for ceiling.
#1
11-22-13, 07:19 PM
Need input for what type of wood for ceiling.
I am at the point in my renovation that have to consider whay type wood to install on my ceiling.
I have 8 foot walls with an open 12/3 pitch roof thoughout. smallest room is a 12 x 12 bedroom, largest rooms are a family room and a kitchen/living room combo, both 25 x 16. I have run my furring strips vertical, so my slates will run horizontal mainly because I do not need any illusion of height but do need an illusion of size.
As to the width of my boards but I feel 2 x 4 would make the ceiling to busy and 1 x 12 would be to large for the size of the room or subject to warping, 1 x 8 seems to be just right but I might be wrong, this is the first wood ceiling I have attempted.
The other consideration is cedar vs. pine. pine is 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of cedar but I would not stain the cedar so less labor. cedar obviously has better appeal to the eyes, but again at 2 to 2 1/2 times the cost
I don't know which on is less prone to splitting or any reason I would not want to install cedar besided the cost.
Do I have to treat either wood before i cut and nail or just run it up naked?
This one of those jobs that an error in judgement could cost me alot of time and money.
I presume standard tongue and groove is way to go.
If you have tackled this job before I certainly (wood) appreciate your input.
I have 8 foot walls with an open 12/3 pitch roof thoughout. smallest room is a 12 x 12 bedroom, largest rooms are a family room and a kitchen/living room combo, both 25 x 16. I have run my furring strips vertical, so my slates will run horizontal mainly because I do not need any illusion of height but do need an illusion of size.
As to the width of my boards but I feel 2 x 4 would make the ceiling to busy and 1 x 12 would be to large for the size of the room or subject to warping, 1 x 8 seems to be just right but I might be wrong, this is the first wood ceiling I have attempted.
The other consideration is cedar vs. pine. pine is 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of cedar but I would not stain the cedar so less labor. cedar obviously has better appeal to the eyes, but again at 2 to 2 1/2 times the cost
I don't know which on is less prone to splitting or any reason I would not want to install cedar besided the cost.
Do I have to treat either wood before i cut and nail or just run it up naked?
This one of those jobs that an error in judgement could cost me alot of time and money.
I presume standard tongue and groove is way to go.
If you have tackled this job before I certainly (wood) appreciate your input.
#2
11-22-13, 08:23 PM
Group Moderator
You will get a lot of cupping with 1x8. I would suggest a v-groove t&g 1x6. Pine or cedar, your choice. The main thing will be to specify the grade of lumber, and that more than anything will determine the price. If you don't mind a few knots, the price comes down.
#3
11-23-13, 03:21 AM
I'd also use 1x6 T&G. My youngest son has it in his house and it looks great!
If you go with pine, I'd stain [or not] and apply a couple of coats of varnish/poly prior to installation with the final coat being applied after installation. That will save you a lot of finishing time [easier too] Try not to get much build up on the tongues as it might hinder installation. My SOP for new wood ceilings is to spray and wipe the stain while the wood is on saw horses and then spray on a coat of sanding sealer or poly, then set the wood on racks [or wherever] to dry, sand and then apply another coat of poly. After the ceilings been installed, I'll go back and putty any nail holes and/or bad joints, sand lightly and apply the final coat. You can expect the finish to look good for 15-20 yrs.
If you go with pine, I'd stain [or not] and apply a couple of coats of varnish/poly prior to installation with the final coat being applied after installation. That will save you a lot of finishing time [easier too] Try not to get much build up on the tongues as it might hinder installation. My SOP for new wood ceilings is to spray and wipe the stain while the wood is on saw horses and then spray on a coat of sanding sealer or poly, then set the wood on racks [or wherever] to dry, sand and then apply another coat of poly. After the ceilings been installed, I'll go back and putty any nail holes and/or bad joints, sand lightly and apply the final coat. You can expect the finish to look good for 15-20 yrs.
#4
11-25-13, 04:09 PM
Group Moderator
Here's a couple pics of a 1x6 v-groove ceiling.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps473b655c.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps02554af4.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps473b655c.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps02554af4.jpg
#5
11-25-13, 05:12 PM
I agree with the others. Here's one vaulted ceiling we did recently, just to give more visual. I don't paint, so I had a pro stain and lacquer the finish prior to install.
#6
11-26-13, 10:21 AM
Group Moderator
One more vote for pine T&G - my former in laws did this in their lake place with just two coats of oil based poly on it. Between the amber in the poly and the darkening of pine with a little time, it looks fabulous.
