Decorative Ceiling Beam Dropping At End

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Old 10-19-14, 12:25 PM
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Arrow Decorative Ceiling Beam Dropping At End

I have a decorative ceiling beam that is dropping on one end about 1" from the ceiling. It is a box type beam made out of 3 pieces of wood and is about 30' long. Apparently the end of the beam was toe-nailed into the wall. I tried pushing the beam up while on a ladder. Not much luck. I was thinking about making an I-shaped brace made with 2x4s and using a hydraulic Jack to slowly raise the beam back into place then try to secure the beam to the wall and ceiling with screws.

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Old 10-19-14, 12:33 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

Apparently the end of the beam was toe-nailed into the wall.
Is that all that is holding up that 30' cover ?

You may have to look further into what's holding that up. You may not just be able to push it up without splitting the wood.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 12:53 PM
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When we had the house built 21 years ago, the beam was part of the home. It was built by Taylor Homes. When I inspected the dropped end, I did not see any cleats or braces. The rest of the beam seems solid.Name:  image.jpg
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On most of the houses I've painted that had a faux beam, it was nailed to a 2x ridge beam or 2xs that were nailed to the rafters. Using a small mirror can you look inside the faux beam to see how it's constructed?
 
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I supplied the pictures to show all that I was able to see. The 2x4 brace under the beam was put there for support when I tried to push the beam up with my hands. I couldn't move it.
 
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Since you can't push the fake beam up, I'd consider taking it down, figuring out how it was constructed and then reinstalling it in a manner that would stand the test of time. might need a helper
 
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I was going to make an I brace with 2x4s and gradually push the beam up with the brace and hydraulic Jack.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 03:42 PM
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Mark. Your pictures do indeed show no connecting means.

Normally a 2xX would be fastened to the ceiling rafters and then the box would be attached to that.

You might be able to push it back up but what will you fasten it to. There's nothing solid there.
 
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It shouldn't take a hydraulic jack to raise the fake beam and it would likely break if you use that much pressure.
 
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Ok. Thanks for your advice.
 
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I was thinking that I could angle something like 7" screws through the side of the beam into the frame of the wall
 
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Just an afterthought. There is a floor to ceiling stud dead center of the beam. What about a modified corbel to support the end of the beam? A piece of wood on top of the corbel. Use wood screws to secure the corbel to the stud beneath the beam.
 
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You should also check it with a stringline to see if its straight. One reason a beam like that would come down is if the ridge was starting to bow. A stringline held 5" below the ceiling on each end should be 5" in the center too... not 4 1/2 or 4 or...
 
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I did the stringline. 5".......
 
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That's good news. But I think that you will probably need to take it down to secure it properly. If there's no real backing there to attach it to, it would explain why it came down in the first place. If taking it down is out of the question for fear of opening up a can of worms, you "could" jack it up and then find the ceiling joists, predrill some holes vertically through the sides of the faux beam and get some 8" long torx screws (countersunk so as to fill the holes with colored putty later) to attach it to the bottom of the rafters... but you would need to have it jacked tight to the ceiling... put in a pair or screws... move the jack down a few feet... and repeat.
 
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Thanks. That was along the line of what I wanted to try but one person said that I might split the wood. Upon further inspection I see what might have caused the problem. The home builder took a 1x8 and nailed it using 12d nails to the ceiling joists. He then must have built the box beam using 1x8s for the sides with a ripped 1x7 1/2 recessed slightly in between the two 1x8s. He used brads to secure the box to the board that was nailed to the ceiling. Long story short, the nails towards the end of the box beam somehow broke. So I have the complete four piece box hanging 1 3/4" at the end. The next area of the beam (box) has the two 12d nails partially hanging about 2" down but still in the ceiling joists. This is about 2 feet from the end.
 
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IMO it wouldn't split if you could find a 6-10" long drill bit (say, 5/32") and completely drill through the sides of the box beam... and then use a countersinker to make a seat for the head of the screw.

Hopefully you can jack it up and the new screws will hold better than the old nails.

The Home Depots around here have started carrying the GRK brand of torx screws so hopefully you can find some 8 inchers.
 
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Thanks. I'm going to Home Depot in the morning. I'll let you know how things turn out.
 
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