Framing nailer purchase: advice sought!

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Old 03-13-19, 08:23 AM
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Framing nailer purchase: advice sought!

Buying a framing nailer to do some repairs and maybe build wood fence. Product choice advice sought for newbie.
Based on my budget and level of usages it comes down to these two:
https://www.amazon.com/NuMax-SFR2190...W6W7M5Q88KR0M8
OR https://www.harborfreight.com/10-gau...ler-98751.html

The first is 21 degrees but the HF one is adjustable. Having never used one of these before should I go with the adjustable angle one? Both of them seem like off brands but I own many HF cheapie tools (corded ones) and they seem to serve my purpose- not sure about the nailer though.
https://bradnailer24h.com/framing-na...e-differences/
Any advice on which to buy? A different alternative you recommend? Thanks in advance
 
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I have a 28 HF nail gun and I'm satisfied with it. While I've seen the adjustable nail angle gun at their store I really don't know anything about. The biggest issue with cheap guns is when they break down it can be difficult/impossible to find repair parts.
The price and availability of the nails also plays a part in a framing gun purchase.
 
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If you had the opportunity to actually use the gun before buying it, you would probably find that the higher angle guns (28, 30, 34) are a little easier to use as you swing them around. The magazine is also usually a little shorter which makes them a little easier to use.

21 degrees are most often used where you need to use full head nails... not clipped nails.

The type of nails you will use and where you will buy them is a huge factor... don't buy some gun that doesn't use commonly (locally) available nails.
 
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Have never heard of NuMax and personal the only thing good about HF is using their 20% off coupons to buy a good tool.

Take a look at a refurbished tool, they are great buys and will be something you will have for the rest of your life vs having to eventually throw away the initial junk tool then buy something good.

Cheap can be expensive!
 
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Are the nails you would need for the fence available? X already made my point about making sure you buy one which has nails commonly available.
 
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thanks for the responses so far, can someone explain in more detail the relevance of nail angles? while the article i found explains that higher angles make it easier to get into tight spaces, i cant visualize why that is so? also, what does 21 and other angles actually mean? that the nail is not going in straight? driven in at an angle?
 
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The magazine is longer on lower angle guns. The angle is the angle that the nails are collated. Like I said, 21 degrees are most often full head clips... they take up more space, so they use lower angle and longer magazines.
 
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The nail magazine is at an angle from the horizontal, the higher the angle the smaller the tool gets for tight spots.

Honestly, I've built houses with standard 21 degree and nothing got int he way that could not be resolved, they are the most common, would not worry about it!
 
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Also what is the difference between a framing nailer and a brad nailer?
 
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Brad nails are little 18 gauge nails used for finish work... such as nailing up small trim. They barely have any head at all... like regular hand driven brad nails.
 
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I believe 16 and 15 gauge nails are also considered brad nails. They are only for interior wood trim and such. Even a 2.5" brad won't secure two 2x4s together very well.
 
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15 and 16 gauge nails are just called finish nails. There are DA and FN styles which are not interchangable.

18 gauge brad nails are available in lengths up to 2 1/8".

15 and 16 gauge finish nails are available up to 2 1/2".
 
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My first 16 gauge nailer was from harbor freight and it said on the box that it was a brad nailer .... that's why I assumed the 15 and 16 gauge were also called brads.
 
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The Chinese dont always grasp the English language.
 
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i actually bought one of the Numax framing nailers on Amazon about a year ago. I've never used one before, but I like mine... bought a house last summer and did a big refurb, so I've used it a lot with no issues. You may also want to buy a smaller finish nailer if you are doing a lot of trim.
 
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