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Old 02-16-06, 04:26 PM
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defrag/scandisk

My computer will not run either the defrag or the scandisk functions. When I run scandisk it stops and tells me that it has had to restart 10 times. The defrag looks like it is working, but it runs and runs but never moves past 0% complete. The computer is a HP Pavilion 6600 series with Intel Celeron Processor and Windows 98. Can anyone help and/or educate me?
 
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Old 02-16-06, 04:33 PM
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start it(the computer) in safemode and try running them. Win 98 is/was notorious for those problems. Do you have it updated as much as possible?
 
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Old 02-16-06, 06:08 PM
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Are you running anything else at the same time as scandisk? It is a low-level utility that examines your hard drive file system. If it detects that something has changed on the disk while it is running, it will restart. You should run it from safe mode, or better yet, on a Windows 9x system, boot from your recovery diskette & run it from there. This way you know for sure that the HD is inactive.
 
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Old 02-17-06, 02:58 AM
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A further word about this

Follow two rules for running system maintenance utilities:
1. Give the utility the whole machine. (Let it run alone on the computer.)
2. Let the utility run until it's done.

These rules explain why system managers try to schedule this kind of thing after hours. The goal is to establish reliable procedures that run to completion without interfering with anybody.

You can use batch files (script files on later versions of Windows) to code utility commands and their command line options to do what you want. Schedule these utility routines to run at night when no one is using the computer. Redirect command output to a file you can use to review how well things went later on.
 
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Had the scandisk failed because because the harddrive controller went bad.
 
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I appreciate the replies, but I'm going to need a bit more detail for me to act on them. For example, how do you intentionally get the computer in SAFE MODE? It has happened to me, where the computer has opened in safe mode, but I have never directed it to do that before.

Also, I need to update my Windows program to the newest version. Does anyone foresee a problem that I might have in doing that?
 
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Originally Posted by dilohi
Also, I need to update my Windows program to the newest version. Does anyone foresee a problem that I might have in doing that?
i assume you mean windows updates.
download and install any updates needed
run the disk cleanup utility
reboot the computer and hold down the <ctrl> key while it's coming back up. that should give you the option of selecting safe mode.
once n safe mode, run scandisk, then defrag.
reboot
 
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Originally Posted by dilohi
I appreciate the replies, but I'm going to need a bit more detail for me to act on them. For example, how do you intentionally get the computer in SAFE MODE? It has happened to me, where the computer has opened in safe mode, but I have never directed it to do that before.

Also, I need to update my Windows program to the newest version. Does anyone foresee a problem that I might have in doing that?
As soon as the computer goes through POST, start pressing the the F8 key. Press it repeatedly until a dialog opens allowing boot options.
 
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Old 02-26-06, 11:52 PM
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1. Go to Start > Run and type msconfig in the Open: box
2. On the General tab, uncheck all items listed under Selective startup (make sure that Selective startup is selected)
3. Hit apply and OK and restart Windows
4. This starts Windows with only the basics running; Insures nothing will interfere with ScanDisk and Defrag
5. Run ScanDisk and Defrag, when ready go into msconfig and select Normal startup and restart Windows

OR:

The Disk Defragmenter for Windows 98 (DEFRAG.EXE) may start and not complete its task. If repeated attempts to defragment the drive are unsuccessful, it may be because an application is writing to the disk. The Disk Defragementer cannot share access to a drive with other tasks.

An application loading automatically at startup may interfere with DEFRAG. Run DEFRAG before applications load at startup by adding a value for DEFRAG.EXE /ALL to the RunServicesOnce key in the registry.

Note: You can use your computer while Disk Defragmenter is running, however, Disk Defragmenter restarts if the contents of the drive you are defragmenting change.

1. Select defrag.inf found in the \tools\mtsutil folder on the Windows 98 CD
2. Right-click defrag.inf, and choose Install from the menu

The next time you start your computer, Windows will defragment your drive(s) automatically.
 
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Originally Posted by flopshot
i assume you mean windows updates.
download and install any updates needed
I currently have Windows 98. I need to have Windows XP. I assume that I need to go and buy the program disk and then install it. I have a Window XP disk that came with another computer that I have in my office, but says it is for reinstalling only and for a Dell computer only. XP was already installed on that computer when I got it. The computer that I need to upgrade is an HP. So, I'm assuming that I can't just use that one.

So, when you say download, you mean to put an XP program disk in and install it?
 
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first of all, what you want to do is against the law. that copy was included with you licensed ability to run it on one ( the hp ) computer. but you can do what you want about that issue.
secondly, your 98 machine may not be capable of running xp. check the memory , cpu, and storage capacity.
to install xp you would most likely have to reformat the hard drive and install xp as i don't think you have an upgrade version of xp
maybe tae could weigh in on this issue ?
 
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I thought about the legality of using that disk. I don't want to break the law. Just thought since I was only sharing with myself that it wouldn't be a big deal. Anyway, I didn't think it would work anyway.

So, if I get a brand new XP disk, I would have to uninstall the Windows 98 and then install XP?

Where would I get an upgrade disk that you mentioned?

What specs do I need to have on my computer in order for XP to work?
 
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Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Home Edition
PC with 300 megahertz (MHz) or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233-MHz minimum required;* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended

128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)

1.5 gigabyte (GB) of available hard disk space.*

Super VGA (800 600) or higher resolution video adapter and monitor

CD-ROM or DVD drive

Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

this is a minimum requirement. i woudn't expect a satisfactory upgrade at this level. you can go to microsft.com and have your system analyzed for downloadable upgrade. i think a cleaned up drive may be all you need. at worst you could have someone format and reinstall your 98 and it would be like new.
 
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scandisk and defrag

When i had windows 98/SE it was also
a big problem until i got wise enough to
boot into safemode and then do the maintenance
like defrag etc...after that things really started to work well
 
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Along the ideas of the other posters, here are some websites with some methods to trying to get scandisk/defrag to finish on a Win98 machine.

http://www.icehouse.net/jim_d/defrag.html

http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/tec060902.html

http://www.5starsupport.com/info/techinfo.htm

-mike
 
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Just wanted to thank all who replied with helpful information. I was able to run the scandisk and defrag completely through the process.
 
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