using sealer on treated wood
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04-18-04, 11:37 PM
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using sealer on treated wood
they said on hometime that treated wood was not treated or sealed to be water resistant.
if thats the case can i put thompsons water sealer on now just before i paint or stain the porch. this is new treated lumber as of last fall. if i had have known that treated lumber was not treated against water when i got it ,i probably would have put the tompsons on last fall. in any case is it ok to put it on now and then paint or stain it.
if thats the case can i put thompsons water sealer on now just before i paint or stain the porch. this is new treated lumber as of last fall. if i had have known that treated lumber was not treated against water when i got it ,i probably would have put the tompsons on last fall. in any case is it ok to put it on now and then paint or stain it.
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What they said was true.
What you want to do is fine, except I would invest a little more in the sealer and step up to a Cabot's Silkens, SuperDeck, etc.
You'll be happier with the results, and you won't be redoing it nearly as often.
What you want to do is fine, except I would invest a little more in the sealer and step up to a Cabot's Silkens, SuperDeck, etc.
You'll be happier with the results, and you won't be redoing it nearly as often.
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DO NOT use Thompsons and then attempt to stain it afterwards.
Now read those first four words only.
Last years deck should be cleaned first.
Then find an oil base penetrating stain with uv protection.
fred
Now read those first four words only.
Last years deck should be cleaned first.
Then find an oil base penetrating stain with uv protection.
fred
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seal or not to seal?
are you talking do not seal with good grade sealer before staining with oil or clean well ,seal with good sealer not thompsons ,then stain with oil base stain .
would you recommend stain or paint? i would prefer stain.
what would you recommend to clean with?
would you recommend stain or paint? i would prefer stain.
what would you recommend to clean with?
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04-19-04, 05:54 PM
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What Fred and I are telling you is:
1.) Clean the deck.
2.) Use stain it with a GOOD stain that has UV protectants in it -- Cabots, Silkens, SuperDeck, ...
3.) NONE of the above mentioned brands start with a "T"!!!!
4.) Read the first four words Fred posted over, and over, and over again!!
1.) Clean the deck.
2.) Use stain it with a GOOD stain that has UV protectants in it -- Cabots, Silkens, SuperDeck, ...
3.) NONE of the above mentioned brands start with a "T"!!!!
4.) Read the first four words Fred posted over, and over, and over again!!
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Roeboat109,
Here's the long/short of it.
Hometime does make an occasional error.
Actually, new PT lumber does repel water, it will usually bead up a bit.
The "T" product also repels water. But it is a wax based sealer. Therefore it has a tendancy to collect dirt. And it wears off fast.
Using any other product on top of "T" will be a total failure. It will not adhere or be absorbed properly. As a matter of fact, using almost any product on top of the same product can result in problems. Even Wolmans says on their F&P finish, a second coat will be repelled by the first coat. There are very few finishes which allow application of a second coat.
This is why stripping off previous finishes is recommended in most cases.
Lefty,
a little secret: I only had a part-time PW business for a couple years.
So I haven't cleaned/stained nearly your 1000 decks built!! But it was still alot of hard work. Too much for a 'retiree'.
I did use the 3500 psi PW Sunday though. I finalized last falls leaf removal - it does a great job. The curse of living in the woods!
So it's golf tomo, golf Sat, and golf Monday.
take care,
fred
Here's the long/short of it.
Hometime does make an occasional error.
Actually, new PT lumber does repel water, it will usually bead up a bit.
The "T" product also repels water. But it is a wax based sealer. Therefore it has a tendancy to collect dirt. And it wears off fast.
Using any other product on top of "T" will be a total failure. It will not adhere or be absorbed properly. As a matter of fact, using almost any product on top of the same product can result in problems. Even Wolmans says on their F&P finish, a second coat will be repelled by the first coat. There are very few finishes which allow application of a second coat.
This is why stripping off previous finishes is recommended in most cases.
Lefty,
a little secret: I only had a part-time PW business for a couple years.
So I haven't cleaned/stained nearly your 1000 decks built!! But it was still alot of hard work. Too much for a 'retiree'.
I did use the 3500 psi PW Sunday though. I finalized last falls leaf removal - it does a great job. The curse of living in the woods!
So it's golf tomo, golf Sat, and golf Monday.
take care,
fred
