5 foot porch swing, 4 foot hooks


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Old 04-14-14, 03:53 PM
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5 foot porch swing, 4 foot hooks

Thanks to the community in advance for your help! I'm new to the forums...

Anyway, I have an old 20's house with a covered front porch and doug fir bead boards on the ceiling of the porch. I received a 56 in. (almost 5 foot) front porch swing last year as a gift. I just got it stained and was planning to hang it since it's getting nice out.

The problem is the existing hooks in the ceiling joists are only 4 ft. across. The swing has to run parallel to the ceiling joists since there isn't enough room to swing perpendicularly. There are (what seems to be -- I can't see through the beadboard) 3 joists running parallel in the space in which the swing can fit, so essentially the outer most joists already have hooks in them but this is only 4 foot across.

Can I hang a 56 in. swing in a 48 in. span? How terrible will this look and what options (if any) do I have other than cutting the swing and rebuilding it to fit correctly in this space?

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Old 04-15-14, 01:15 AM
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Remove and reinstall the existing hooks at 56-inch centers. If they're worn or distressed, replace them with new ones at 56-inch centers.
 
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Old 04-15-14, 05:32 AM
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Bridgeman, I read it differently then you did. I read it as the ceiling joists running with the long width of the porch not front to back on the porch so he is limited by the spacing of the ceiling joists. Ap, Is this how the ceiling joists run?

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Is there any access above the porch ceiling? so you could install additional framing.

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Ray, your drawing is 100% correct to my situation. Thanks for providing the clarity.

As your drawing shows, the the only available place to put hooks are at 48 in.

Marksr, there is no access above the ceiling. The only access would be to remove the beadboard, but since it is in such great shape, and original to the home, I haven't considered that an option.

Ideas are greatly appreciated!
 
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Old 04-15-14, 09:09 AM
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I would fasten a 2x6 whose length was the full depth of the porch front to back to the ceiling. Use an ogee bit on the long edges to make it look decorative. Fasten eye bolts with T nuts at the 52" distance. Drill holes in your bead board for the end of the eye bolt if needed. Slightly recess the T nut if needed so the board lays flat. Put at least two 3/8"x6" lag bolts in all of the ceiling joists to hold the 2x6.
 

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My bad--I didn't expect the porch ceiling to be framed with joists running in the long direction. But I agree with ray247's solution, supplemented by lagging the 2 x 6 to the middle joist as well as the two spaced at 48".
 
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I was thinking along the same line as Ray, a piece of angle iron bolted to the ceiling should also work.
 
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Old 04-15-14, 10:35 AM
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To be clear I meant all joists. I have edited my original post and emphasized the 2x6 would be full width front to back and fasted at each joist. Maybe overkill but better than "underkill".
 
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overkill but better than "underkill"
Definitely!! You want to know that whoever sits in it is safe
 
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It looks like I will be doing something along the lines of attaching a supporting/decorative 2x6.

However, I don't have access to the outermost joists as one sits on what seems to be a ledge where it attaches to the house, and on the other side there is an I beam which carries the weight of the roof between the supporting columns. Could I get away with using just the three joists in the middle or will that cause the ends of the 2x6 to sag? Please see the attachment, X's mark the joists I can't attach to.

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I would screw ot toggle bolt the ends to the bead board if you can't screw in to anything more substantial by screwing at a 45°angle. If you are reasonably sure you won't ever remove it use construction adhesive at least near the ends.
 
 

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