Stain over paint
#1
07-23-14, 10:13 PM
Stain over paint
Hello,
I live in a house that was made around 1985. And I have a deck that has been painted since that time. I am tired of all the pealing every year or two. Will it be possible to stain it without damaging the deck or should I just paint it again. If so what kind of paint? Since, I have a horizontal deck, the water sits a lot so that's a problem for all the pealing.
I live in a house that was made around 1985. And I have a deck that has been painted since that time. I am tired of all the pealing every year or two. Will it be possible to stain it without damaging the deck or should I just paint it again. If so what kind of paint? Since, I have a horizontal deck, the water sits a lot so that's a problem for all the pealing.
#3
07-24-14, 04:24 AM
While you need to remove all the stain in order to apply a semi-transparent type stain, a solid stain is more forgiving. Generally if 90% of the paint is removed, the solid deck stain will work fine.
btw - welcome to the forums!
btw - welcome to the forums!
#5
07-24-14, 07:49 AM
Group Moderator
Yes, it can. It's not something you have to avoid but you have to be careful not to use too much pressure.
#6
07-24-14, 07:53 AM
Improperly using a PWer can damage a deck. It's best to use chemicals for the cleaning and the PWer just as an aide in rinsing. You can rinse with just a water hose but a PWer is quicker. The same is true on siding, a PWer will make scraping easier but if you rely on the PWer to remove the loose paint you will likely damage the wood siding.
I'd probably use a bleach/water solution with TSP added to clean your deck, then rinse with a pressure washer. After cleaning you can reevaluate what coating would be best.
I'd probably use a bleach/water solution with TSP added to clean your deck, then rinse with a pressure washer. After cleaning you can reevaluate what coating would be best.
#7
07-24-14, 09:09 PM
Ok thats a good advice. I asume if I use deck paint than i do not need to prime it. but i have the porch connected to my deck. Do I need to prime that or I can use the deck paint on it since I want them same color to match with my roof . FYI I want a dark brown color since my siding are a light color.
#8
07-25-14, 04:45 AM
Paint always requires raw wood to be primed but many deck enamels say to thin the paint about 10% and use the thinned paint for a primer, the top coat would be full strength. Read the label on whatever coating you decide to use.
Porch and deck enamels normally fare well on covered porches but not so good on exposed decks. Also many oil base P&D paints state they are not to be used over PT lumber. If feasible, I'd switch to a solid deck stain!
Porch and deck enamels normally fare well on covered porches but not so good on exposed decks. Also many oil base P&D paints state they are not to be used over PT lumber. If feasible, I'd switch to a solid deck stain!
#10
07-25-14, 11:06 AM
the person who is going to do it for me said to clean and paint over my current paint. and only scrub the area that are pealing? is this a good solution?
or
Should I put a solution and than power wash the deck and paint the whole thing?
I want to stain so badly but it sounds like that will cost me a lot more.
or
Should I put a solution and than power wash the deck and paint the whole thing?
I want to stain so badly but it sounds like that will cost me a lot more.
#11
07-25-14, 11:57 AM
Group Moderator
I'm missing something - how will stain cost significantly more than paint?
Either way, I'd remove all the loose paint and scrub/clean the whole deck.
Either way, I'd remove all the loose paint and scrub/clean the whole deck.
#12
07-25-14, 12:39 PM
I see, He just wanted to take short cut. To make it easier, is there any solution i can put on the deck the remove the paints?
#13
07-25-14, 02:20 PM
You could use a chemical paint stripper. I had to strip several 100 garage doors one time [bad factory primer] and I rolled on the stripper, let it work and then pressure washed the door. It did a great job but I also had to use a rake to pick up all the debris.
As Mitch said, you need to clean all of the deck. The remaining paint needs to be clean for paint/stain to adhere well, all loose paint needs to be scraped. The PWer will help with peeling paint but if you rely on the PWer to do all the work you're likely to damage the wood.
As Mitch said, you need to clean all of the deck. The remaining paint needs to be clean for paint/stain to adhere well, all loose paint needs to be scraped. The PWer will help with peeling paint but if you rely on the PWer to do all the work you're likely to damage the wood.
#14
07-25-14, 03:38 PM
Ya, the guy is scared of damaging the wood so he wants to do it by scraping where needed and not removing all the paints by power washing.
Now i just have to find a good paint remover for the deck
Now i just have to find a good paint remover for the deck
#15
07-26-14, 03:49 AM
I don't use strippers on a regular basis so I can't really recommend any certain stripper although generally the more caustic they are the quicker they work. What I normally do when that kind of job comes up is ask the paint rep at the store which stripper would work best for the job at hand.
#16
07-26-14, 05:37 AM
I guess I will stain it this time. Specially with all the water sitting on the deck and FRONT porch( and my porch is half open so it does see sun often. So with staining, do I use the same stain on the porch and deck?
