Finally Started to work on the deck.

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now sure which question you trying to answer..
see your posts #75 and #77

How did the stove make the deck black? What kind of stove? The smoke should go up and not affect the deck much.
 
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The hole is in the place where I drew the picture of the stove. I might just use some filler. Does fillers expand when dried?

Its a open gas stove, similar to a propane camp stove.

Backyard Pro Single Burner Outdoor Patio Stove / Range
 
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Durham's RockHard Putty is one filler that expands slightly. It must be applied neatly as it is a bear to sand down. Any filler will fare better if it is coated with an oil primer.

Maybe the deck/stove would fare better if the stove was elevated some.
 
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I actually have alot of filler left. SO I will just shove them in as i think it will require a lot.

And it was elevated but We need to find a batter thing like a metal table to hold it. This is very annoying but cooking fish inside the house is worst.

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When water beads on the surface that means the wood is sealed and repelling water instead of it being absorbed by the wood.
 
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So thats normal and will not cause issue?
 
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It's what you actually want to see.
 
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Think of it like the wax on your car. Wax helps the car paint to last longer, protects it some from the weather and beads up when wet! One of the tests for clear stains is to see if it still beads water, when it doesn't, it is no longer protecting the wood. Sometimes it will leave a little discoloration where the water beaded but that doesn't hurt anything and can be scrubbed away. That mostly occurs if the deck or rain water is dirty.
 
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Wow, I never seen bubbling while it rains on my deck before. Its the first.

it doesnt feel tacky at night but at morning when the sun hits the paint. its feel tacky agian. whats the reason?
 
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If your painted surfaces are tacky after having been exposed to moisture, it usually means the paint hasn't been able to cure properly. Or was applied to PT lumber before it was properly dried.

And for what it's worth, there's a big difference between "water beading" and "bubbling paint." Which do you really have?
 
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I don't remember if you said but is the paint latex or oil base? Even though it dries to the touch quicker, latex paints [especially enamels] take longer to cure than oil base paints. The amount of coats along with time between coats can affect how long it takes the paint to cure. Latex paints take 5-7 days to fully cure although the right conditions can extend the curing time another week or so. Moisture and cool temps will slow/stop curing time of oil base coatings but generally it will cure in about 72 hrs.
 
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It is latex, floor and patio paint from BM. Paid $54 per gallon, thought it should dry right away with such price. lol.
and the temperature so far been very hot over 85+ with rain on and off.

And so far one coat. And I am planning on putting another coat tomorrow. Would that be a good idea with the floor still not dry?
 
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Have not applied to the fresh PT lumber yet.

And humidity is been really high while I painted and ever since then. probably 65%+ with 85F+ Temp.

I think it looks more like bubbles. I have a picture in the post. But it did not leave any marks. I can walk on the surface fine with no issue.
 
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Applying another coat over a tacky coat will cause the underlying coat to take even longer to cure. Are you sure the paint is tacky, or is it just soft? High humidity and cool temps will cause the paint to cure/dry slower. High temps can cause the top portion of the paint to dry quicker but not necessarily all the way thru the coat of paint. That said, it should be ok to apply another coat of paint tomorrow. Problems arise when more than 2 coats of paint are applied in a short period of time.

Bubbles in the paint are almost always caused by moisture under the coating. A bubble would need to be scraped off. Beaded water is just that, water drops on top of the paint which can easily be removed with a dry rag.
 
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Its only felt tacky when the sun hit the paint but at night it did not feel tacky.

And you seen the picture I posted. What does it look like? Is that consider bubble or water beading? It looked bubble to me but there was no marks or any change to paint after the rain.
 
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Looks to me like the water bubbling, not the paint.

I think all is well.
 
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When the paint is tacky at some times of the day and not at others - that just means the paint hasn't cured completely yet.

A paint bubble/blister is where moisture gets under the paint and lifts the paint [sometimes only the size of a drop] Occasionally they will lay back down but the those bubbles never regain their bond with the substrate. To me it looks like water beading which isn't something to worry about.
 
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Ok, I just hope that is the case.
So remember that big hole I have in the wood. What is the best way to put all the filler inside that? Since the filler I have is in a bucket. And I think that will take about a pound to fill.
 
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If the hole goes all the way thru you'd put something under it to stop the filler from falling thru [maybe line it with wax paper so it doesn't stick] otherwise you'd mix it as directed and pour/force the filler into the hole. A putty knife would be helpful.
 
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Its about 1 ft deep so not all the way. So I will just use a scraper instead of putty knife to force it in. and tape around the hole
 
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1' deep? where exactly is this board? what is the size of the board? sounds like it needs to be replaced!
 
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Its the pole between two railings at the corner. Ya idk how a bird could have done it.
 
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So it's a corner post? I'd replace it! not sure if a filled/patched post would be stout enough.
 
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No!!!!!!!nooooooooooooo
it looks to difficult to replace! Can I duct tape it? With Gorilla Glue?lol
 
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Post a couple more pics of the post so we can see how it's installed.
 
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Thats the corner post. it doesn't go all the way but I am scared to remove it.
 
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Can you post a pic from the other side including one from underneath the deck?
Does that post extend all the way to the ground?
 
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The hole is actualy not all the way. its 2in by 8inch.
But there is crack on two side of the wood.

Can i just fill it up? It feels strong to me.
 
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OK it appears that the post is separate from the post that holds up the deck which makes it a simpler/cheaper job. You'll need to remove the 2 lag bolts under the deck and then work that post loose [removing nails/screws as needed] Then use the removed post as a pattern to cut the new one. Installation is the reverse of the removal.
 
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Is it necessary? lol. It feels fine when i shake it. Nothing move.
 
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IMO it needs replacing! While the post might be tightly secured to the deck - it doesn't have the strength it had when it was whole and could break easier when stressed. I'd be concerned if someone fell against the railing and the post broke .... If you feel lucky, go ahead and patch it. Often patching large holes takes a number of applications as filling it all at once is subject to having the filler fall out or sag.
 
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Ok, I will see if someone can help me out with it me. lol.
SOOOO MUCH WORK.
 
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THe hinges for the door is too difficult to open. WHat is other way can I remove the wheels? Its screwed in. But Can not take a drill or screw driver with suck small space to work it.
 
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