Large crack in concrete stairs

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Large crack in concrete stairs

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So connected to my patio and on top of a retaining wall are some steps. Theres a large gap as indicated in the attached photos. There is a water spout connected to the gutters I will have to extend/re route that I believe is causing the problems. How should I go about fixing the crack?
I’m considering simply filling the large gap with dirt, then sand, then using concrete patching to fill and smooth off the hole/crack.
Thoughts or tips?
I’ve never done this before but I’m a quick learner.
Thanks in advance.

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Old 05-20-20, 09:18 AM
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I cant post more pictures but its almost two inches wide and it goes down about 8 inches until it hits dirt.
 

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Old 05-20-20, 10:23 AM
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Did the lower part collapse downward??


 
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What do you mean by downward?
The spot in the picture is the main effect, the rest of the stairs/patio area is ok. some small cracks I’ll patch over.

Inside the crack there is an empty cavity. It gos under the stairs about 8 inches then hits dirt.
 
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Here is another picture below. Ill try another too
 
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Old 05-20-20, 11:09 AM
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I think your best bet there is to mix up a few bags of concrete mix as soupy as you can and just keep pouring it in until its full.
 
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Thats a good idea.
Now, all the concrete mix in my local store is either for posts or for repairs up to 2 inches. Does that matter? Can I use that type of mix?
theres nothing that just says “concrete”.
Im ignorant on these things, appreciate the input.
 
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Old 05-20-20, 01:52 PM
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What do you mean by downward?
In your picture the lower triangular piece, did it once meet up to the steps, you can see the line!

So the triangular lower picece collapsed/sunk/fell down from the steps?
 
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Are you sure that concrete mix isn't for 2" and over? (Meaning minimum 2")
 
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I went ahead and found two 60 pound bags of cement mix and filled it in and smoothed it off and it really worked out well. If it dosn’t hold I’ll have to re evaluate and call someone.
I also redirected the water spout and will put in a permanent solution to that issue once the concrete is completely dried and cured.

Thank you to those who commented.
 
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