Building a deck on slope and connect to the existing stair of high deck


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Old 09-18-22, 12:28 AM
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Question Building a deck on slope and connect to the existing stair of high deck

Challenging conditions:
a) -35c in winter
b) On a slope, 3 ft difference
c) New house, the ground still on settlement
d) I never build a deck

the slope and the current stair ...


The plan




Plan A - Separate into 3 frame
Frame#1: [use 2x6] connect to the stair, supported by 2 concrete footing (pad) (problem: cannot adjust the height).

Frame#2: [use 2x6] support by concrete footing. TWO of them with height adjustable bracket, TWO without (problem: cannot adjust).

Frame#3: [use 2x8] Supported by 6 adjustable screw piles and ledger board which attached the house.

Plan B - one big frame
THREE on the left is concrete footing (pad, not adjustable), the rest is screw pile


Ideas and problems:
1. As there is only 10" in height from the ground on the stair side, it's not possible to use any adjustable post.
Has to build it as low as possible to connect to the last step of the existing stair, otherwise, I have to build steps/ stair with handrail ... I try to avoid it by install railing on the new deck up to the current stair, make it the only way to the sod. That makes Plan B not quite work as it's too low to use 2x8.

2. Not sure about the structure of PlanA: Frame#2. I stopped after drawing the Joists, how about the beam? no height for both beam and joist, and not sure how to calculate the loads with similar structure on Fram#1 ... stuck here.

3. If I used screw pile on every post (9 of them) in Plan B, is it a proper design, especially the joist with ledger? would it be too long? (the code states: 10 ft joist with 3[2x8] as beam.)

4. It is really expensive to install 9 screw piles ... ($200 for 1), but it's simple, 10 ft pile passes the frost line and adjustable on every post.


I am really struggling now.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks.

 
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Old 09-18-22, 01:46 AM
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Welcome to the forums.

Can't help with your project but you should put Canada in your user bio.
Doubtful the codes are the same there as here.
 
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Old 09-18-22, 06:08 AM
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Something that low, Id consider a stamped concrete patio! Building a deck that low, on the ground presents moisture issues.
 
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Done. Canada added.
Thanks.
I am following the city code book, should be ok but I am not sure about the structure ...
 
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Stamped concrete patio ... Then I have to overcome the slope ...
Difficult to flatten the ground, can't change the grading to a level line.

You are right about the moisture. Thanks.
The new deck could eat up the last step of the existing stair, then there may be enough space for a normal beam & joint system for the whole frame.

Which plan do you think is better for a beginner? 3-frames or 1 big frame?
 
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Difficult to flatten the ground,
Raised stamped concrete patio!
 
 

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