new dishwasher under granite?


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Old 06-30-05, 08:58 AM
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new dishwasher under granite?

My house has a relatively new kitchen (done before I moved in), with granite countertops. Currently there is an 18" dishwasher to the left of the sink. To the right of the sink, there is a 24" base cabinet. I would like to (1) remove the 24" cabinet and install a 24" dishwasher there; and (2) remove the 18" dishwasher and install an 18" cabinet there.

How are granite countertops typically installed to base cabinets? Am I in for a nightmare if I try to remove that 24" cabinet? How about installing the new 18" cabinet? I'm less concerned about the actual dishwasher installation, which seem spretty straightforward, than I am about making the hole to shove it into!
 
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Old 07-01-05, 06:26 PM
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Part of this will depend upon the method used to manufacture and assemble the cabinets. Some can be disassembled in place and removed from underneath the counter top. Others will require partially disassembling the adjacent face frame to accommodate the new installation.

Stone tops are often glued or caulked in place, so this is a consideration, too. Care will be needed to separate the cabinet from the stone.
 
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Old 07-01-05, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chfite
Stone tops are often glued or caulked in place, so this is a consideration, too. Care will be needed to separate the cabinet from the stone.


Care will also be needed to separate it from the neighboring cabinets without damaging them. You'll probably end up completely destroying the cabinet to remove it. Construction of your cabinets will have to be closely duplicated for your new 18" cabinet to be installed, in terms of face frame and maybe matching stain color. This may be a job for a custom cabinet maker.
Another consideration for removing a cabinet is the way the flooring is installed. The cabinets could be installed on top of the flooring, or the flooring could have been installed up to the toe kick.
 
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Old 07-03-05, 08:41 AM
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more problems...

thanks for the help. I don't mind destroying the existing cabinet if necessary; and I've found the manufacturer/product line of the cabinets, so I can replace the 18" dishwasher with the exact model cabinet (color/aging not an issue because the cabinets are pretty new).

But I've discovered a potential new problem. The 24" base cabinet is the "end" of the counter. I've heard you can't support the counter with the dishwasher. SInce the dishwasher requires the full 24" opening, what can I do (if anything) to support the countertop at that end?
 
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Old 07-09-05, 12:04 AM
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A dishwasher requires the full 24" opening. You would need an additional four inches of counter to install a dishwasher end panel for support and to cover the side of the dishwasher and have an inch overhang if at the open end of the run of cabinets.
 
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Old 07-16-05, 10:26 AM
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Agree with 12pole

I used to be in the granite business. If you're ripping out the 24" base cabinet, get a hacksaw blade, thin but sharp knife, etc. to break the adhesive from the stone. Now before you start taking the cabinet out make sure you use a 2x4 or something strong to hold the granite up at the end of the ctop. Under no circumstance should you remove this wood until you have a new panel set in perm. Setting the new panel should require two people. One to set and the other to spot the ctop and temp support.
The other thing to keep in mind is where are the joints in the granite? Is there and undermounted sink? Keep in mind the strip in the back and front of the sink is the weakest part of the ctop. Hope this helps. Tim
 
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Old 07-16-05, 10:29 AM
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P.S. Most all granite tops are set with silicone RTV or liquid nail. Liquid nail is very difficult to break free. The way you can tell is look at the tops from the underside. If it's silicone you should see some where they originally install it.
 
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dishwasher installation under granite

I have a bosch dishwasher that needs to be re-installed under brand new granite. On the top of the DW there are metal brackets that were screwed to the bottom of my old formica counters.
Those brackets can be reversed so they point towards the outside edges and then bent at right angles so they can be screwed into the side of the cabinet and no need to try to tie into the granite. Hope this helps.
 
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The end panel at the dishwasher doesn't need to be 4" wide - ours is a single end panel that is mounted to the floor and to the granite - looks and works fine.
 
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I'm sure all that information would be appreciated...........

IF you weren't responding to a post that is two and a half years old.
 
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Hi
I am just googling this info today and it is still helpful. I am collecting the info to show my contractor for when I ask him to do it over so I don't see the clips.
 
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Hi miniata,

Not sure if I understand your question. I'd suggest to start a new thread with a detailed question, in this Forum or in the appliances' forum
 
 

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