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I am in the process of remodeling a bathroom. I had an old fiberglass tub and surround that I have torn out and plan on replacing it with a tiled shower. I plan on doing all the work myself except possibly for the shower pan. I contacted my local tile dealer (who also does installation and came recommended by other professionals for shower pan installation) and they want about $1700 to do a 4' by 3' shower pan including laying the tile on the pan. I am doing all the other work including the plumbing, subfloor, etc. This seemed a little high to me but I wondered what others thought of this price.

I am leary of doing this myself. I am pretty handy but not sure what to use for the mortar, getting it to the right consistency, and getting it sloped properly.

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Lotsa of diyers do their own custom shower pans. Here's a link to some good info and pictures.

http://www.ontariotile.com/preslope.html

Its hard to say if that price is fair or not. Every job is different and labor rates vary greatly throughout the country. If you are uncomfortable with the numbers get another proposal or two.
 
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If your with it. The shower pan is a DIY job for sure. Thats high for just the pan. That www post is very old Id say. Home Depot and lowes both have. Thick Vinyl that you use for the pan. Also a drain that will lock on to the pan liner. Then put in the 50/50 sand cement mix. Go from there.
 
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Ed - Im not sure what your talking about. That link is indeed the way we do shower pans these days. Did you miss the pictures where the pvc liner is put in? Did you miss the pictures of the clamping drain?

And no 50/50 mix of sand and cement. Its 4 to 5 parts sand for 1 part portland.
 
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If you can do the other phases of shower building the pan is not a big problem. Research is your friend. Harrys write up over at Ontario tile is an up to date process. The only big differing opinion that pan builders tend to have from Harry is the use of a latex addative. Also for the deck mud different builders have different preferences for the ratio of sand to portland cement. I personally use a 5:1 ratio.

Here is a good link for mixing your own deck mud with pictures and what to buy
http://www.johnbridge.com/deckmud.htm

Personally, IMO, for building a shower or tile work, there is no better site for info than
http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin

Also IMO, if you have access to the drain below or if you are not affraid to bust concrete, the Kerdi shower system is great for DIYers! Be sure to look for the installation videos to see it done. Simple process.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
 
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how much mortar mix

Originally Posted by HeresJohnny View Post
Lotsa of diyers do their own custom shower pans. Here's a link to some good info and pictures.

http://www.ontariotile.com/preslope.html

Its hard to say if that price is fair or not. Every job is different and labor rates vary greatly throughout the country. If you are uncomfortable with the numbers get another proposal or two.

Need help, I am ready to do the first mortar mix layer... the one before I install the shower pan. I was directed by Lowe's to use blended mortar mix for the shower pan but I am worried that one bag is not enough. The shower pan is 4X3... 12 s.f. It is a 80 lb. bag but the only measurements it has are for laying brick.

Thanks for any help
 
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Mortar mix

to figure the amount of bedding mud (mixture consist of 1 part Portland cement and 4 parts clean sand) necessary to fill the shower pan. Using the square footage of your shower floor, multiply by 12.5 lbs. per sq. ft. (i.e. 3 x 5 = 15 sq. ft. x 12.5 lbs. = 188 lbs.). Just a side note, it appears that you are fairly well along in your project, however if you find the shower pan a harder task than you thought and for the most part the CPE liners are finicky as heck, I have switched to a product called ****, they have 15 standard sizes and can do custom as well. They made the whole process so simple and it comes with a 25 year warranty...BONUS! You can check them out at ***************
 

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Also IMO, if you have access to the drain below or if you are not affraid to bust concrete, the Kerdi shower system is great for DIYers! Be sure to look for the installation videos to see it done. Simple process.
Schluter-KERDI-SHOWER-KIT - Schluter-Systems
You can install a Kerdi system without having access from below. The instructions actually show you both ways, from below and with no access.
 
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