Installing fully tiled shower

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Old 01-26-11, 04:54 PM
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Installing fully tiled shower

When the floor of the shower is ceramic tiled is it better to use the redi-tray for tile or can a good tiler make it leak proof without using the redi tray or base? appreciatte any help.thanks
 
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Old 01-27-11, 10:29 AM
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There is no reason why a "good tiler" cannot make a "leak proof" pan. There are many different methods available for him to do so.
 
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What 'Craft' best does the job

Hey Team: On the same subject - what professional craft(s) are needed for a top floor bathroom shower 'rip-out'. Take the old shower (tile,pan etc) out (Shower is on interior walls), remove the old 1/2" wallboard to studs, install new Durarock or something similar in the shower area and marry up with the existing wallboard outside the shower, retile the shower using a glazed stone tile, build a new floor custom pan or a pre-fab, and install a Clear Glass, FRAMELESS 36 x 36 Neo Angle Shower (Thats what she wants). I know some craft skills overlap, and if budget is not a major factor because it is a very small bathroom ( 6 x 8 ) what crafts need to be used to get this job done. Its almost golf time and I have to get this done - Thanks for the help
 
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Old 02-26-11, 12:26 PM
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Demo, tile, glass, plumbing, possibly electric.......................Or since it is a diy site, you can do it yourself and save the big bucks for a new set of clubs. Let us know. We can walk you through it.
 
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Three methods for making a "shower pan" for a tile shower stall:

a) Hot Mop
Most Tile contractors sub this out to an outfit that specializes in doing this. Using roofing felt and hot tar, the shower pan is "mopped" (around blocking, floor and dam). This is the old school way of making a shower pan. It smells and could be messy should the worker not be into neatness but (in my opinion) is the best method of making a shower pan for a tile shower.

b) Rubber liner
You may have seen that big grey roll of rubber material in the bathtub section of your home improvement store - this is material used to fabricate a shower pan. In my professional opinion it is a step down from hot mopping your shower pan. There are 2 reasons why this method is used:

1 - In some areas, building codes or management association rules do not allow hot mopping in buildings over a certain number of floors (or not at all).

2 - ease of application. There is a science to fabricating this material into a shower pan, but it's someting you can teach a laborer.

c) Pre-fabricated shower pans
Though the only drawback with these is they come in specific sizes, they are becoming more common in new construction and make it possible to tile a shower stall without floating cement. A pre-constructed shower pan that fits right into your shower stall.

Your "Neo-Angle" shower stall may be a good candidate for this application. A company called "Tile Redi" has a web site and a video that shows how to install this pan. They're pricey, but the trade off is you can board up a shower stall..........someone with the moxie (and a bit of coaching) could take this on as a "do it yourself" project!
 
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I had to check out your profile, and as I suspected you are in California. I think the hop mop is a west coast thing only. You'll not find hot mop pans anywhere on the east coast.

Here its pan liners or surface applied membranes like kerdi or hyrdroban.
 
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Thanks for the help Team:

For the tile shower area - I have seen recommendations for several types of backerboard construction e.g. Concrete backer, Easy bond, etc. It has been suggested that there are materials that are 'WATERPROOF' and will not permit water to penetrate to the studs. Concrete is reported to take in water however it will not fall apart from water. WHATS THE BEST APPROACH TO BACKER. It has also been suggested that you could put up a foundation drywall (Green/Blue board as a base for the concrete backerboard. Is it also a good idea to put up 15 lb. Felt Paper across the studs in the shower area.

Thanks for the help.
 
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