Shower Pan help
#1
06-24-13, 09:22 PM
Shower Pan help
We are remodeling our shower and are looking for some advice on the shower pan.
What we are planning on doing is taking out the current 3x3 stand up shower and the garden tub and making 1 large 2 person shower with shower heads on each end. The shower will be about 93" x 42".
I am getting hung up on what to do for the shower pan. The mud/mortar pan is out of the question as i do not think that is a very good design in the long run so I am looking into ordering a custom shower pan.
We are planning on leaving the 2 drains where they are rather than ripping up the foundation and moving the drains.
I have found a few places that can can accommodate a shower pan like what i am needing and was wondering if anyone has any experience with these or any advice to offer.
We are going to be tiling the shower, so the shower pan needs to be able to have tile laid over it, which all 3 of the below options can do.
#1 Wedi - Currently leaning toward this option the most. I can use 2 32x48 shower pans and 2 extensions to build the shower pan with their system
#2 Custom Corner Neo Angle Shower Stall Pan Base Receptor Installation Pans Bases They can custom build a shower pan for me, but I have not been able to find much information about them
#3 http://www.tile-ez.com/products/custom-shower-pans/ They can custom build a shower pan for me, but I have not been able to find much information about them
I have also considered Kerdi but the membrane surface looks like a pain so i doubt i go this route.
If anyone has any advice on the shower pan I would really appreciate it. Or if anyone has any experience with the above 3 companies i would be interested in that as well.
What we are planning on doing is taking out the current 3x3 stand up shower and the garden tub and making 1 large 2 person shower with shower heads on each end. The shower will be about 93" x 42".
I am getting hung up on what to do for the shower pan. The mud/mortar pan is out of the question as i do not think that is a very good design in the long run so I am looking into ordering a custom shower pan.
We are planning on leaving the 2 drains where they are rather than ripping up the foundation and moving the drains.
I have found a few places that can can accommodate a shower pan like what i am needing and was wondering if anyone has any experience with these or any advice to offer.
We are going to be tiling the shower, so the shower pan needs to be able to have tile laid over it, which all 3 of the below options can do.
#1 Wedi - Currently leaning toward this option the most. I can use 2 32x48 shower pans and 2 extensions to build the shower pan with their system
#2 Custom Corner Neo Angle Shower Stall Pan Base Receptor Installation Pans Bases They can custom build a shower pan for me, but I have not been able to find much information about them
#3 http://www.tile-ez.com/products/custom-shower-pans/ They can custom build a shower pan for me, but I have not been able to find much information about them
I have also considered Kerdi but the membrane surface looks like a pain so i doubt i go this route.
If anyone has any advice on the shower pan I would really appreciate it. Or if anyone has any experience with the above 3 companies i would be interested in that as well.
#2
06-25-13, 03:00 AM
Welcome to the forums! What are your downside thoughts on the mud pan? They have been in existence for a long time and if properly made will last a lifetime. Sure it's not your pop and slop type pan, but will fit your opening. Here's good information for you: How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.
#3
06-25-13, 03:29 PM
I am not interested in the mud pan for the following reasons:
1. It looks like it will be a pain to build with 2 drains that are not centered on either end, so getting the slope correct looks like it could be difficult.
2. If not done correctly then i will end up having to rip it out and start over
3. The few places I have had come quote me on the job all think the mud pans are not as good an option due to the likelihood of failure.
4. a Prefabricated shower pan looks to be much simpler and will cut down the time it takes for the remodel by a fair amount of time.
1. It looks like it will be a pain to build with 2 drains that are not centered on either end, so getting the slope correct looks like it could be difficult.
2. If not done correctly then i will end up having to rip it out and start over
3. The few places I have had come quote me on the job all think the mud pans are not as good an option due to the likelihood of failure.
4. a Prefabricated shower pan looks to be much simpler and will cut down the time it takes for the remodel by a fair amount of time.
#4
06-25-13, 05:09 PM
Member
I think it is wishful thinking that you will find a shower base to fit your dimensions without doing at least a little concrete excavation. Personally, if I was to build what you have explained and it had two offset drains and no symmetry to those drains it would drive me crazy (I like to straighten others pictures if you follow). I would expand your search to include discussions with local fabricators of cultured marble vanities. They sometimes do custom shower enclosures and may be able to customize one that meets your parameters. They also can custom pour your walls to speed the remodel up even more. They have really come a long way on cultured marble and can make it look like granite as well.
The other thing you may consider is finding the largest standard pan and adjusting to fit that. You may loose a little space, but you can re-purpose that space into shelves or built in cabinets or something. 93" is a huge shower. Knocking it down to 72" (a standard I found on line) would not interfere with a 2 person shower.
Also, befriend a local plumbing supply house and ask to speak with a contractor salesperson. They may have contacts to custom fabricators that you do not know about.
The other thing you may consider is finding the largest standard pan and adjusting to fit that. You may loose a little space, but you can re-purpose that space into shelves or built in cabinets or something. 93" is a huge shower. Knocking it down to 72" (a standard I found on line) would not interfere with a 2 person shower.
Also, befriend a local plumbing supply house and ask to speak with a contractor salesperson. They may have contacts to custom fabricators that you do not know about.
#5
06-26-13, 09:00 AM
Member
I'll also add that its wishful thinking that you'll find anything except a custom pan that you will build to fit that shower. Relocate the drains so that they are centered and symetrical. I'd use a single deck mud slope and Schluter Kerdi to build this shower. I don't see how any of the options you describe will work for you.
