Weight charts, who isn't overwieght according to these?
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Weight charts, who isn't overwieght according to these?
I am 6'5" and about 270 lbs. My waist is only 36 inches so how am I supposedly 90 lbs overweight? My frame is kinda big.
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03-11-03, 01:21 PM
WebMD has a chart. It is their chart, not my chart. It shows relationships for body mass index in terms of height and weight. You can find it here:
http://my.webmd.com/content/healthwise/191/59997#zm2277
According the chart, I am in the healthy zone. My doctor says that my BMI is too high at 24.1%. According to the chart, I could weigh a tad over 200 pounds in the healthy range. My current weight is 192 pounds, 6'-4", 33 inch waist. Today's vitals BP 106/80 HR 56 according to the nurse.
I have always taken issue these charts. I think that we have to recall that these are normative values. Your doctor may be a better source of the evaluation of healthy weight. There is a lot more to the total subject of health than just weight.
Food for thought.
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http://my.webmd.com/content/healthwise/191/59997#zm2277
According the chart, I am in the healthy zone. My doctor says that my BMI is too high at 24.1%. According to the chart, I could weigh a tad over 200 pounds in the healthy range. My current weight is 192 pounds, 6'-4", 33 inch waist. Today's vitals BP 106/80 HR 56 according to the nurse.
I have always taken issue these charts. I think that we have to recall that these are normative values. Your doctor may be a better source of the evaluation of healthy weight. There is a lot more to the total subject of health than just weight.
Food for thought.
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03-12-03, 04:35 AM
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Weight charts
The problem with weight charts is that the values are too large for short people, and very wrong for tall people. They have no age modifiers, and the definition of frame size, if taken into consideration, tends to be difficult to understand. It is best to strive for good health and follow your physician's recommendations for diet and exercise as well as ideal weight.
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I agree with Twelvepole on the chart deal. According to the charts I am suppose to weigh in at 140. I weigh 129 LOL. Am working on that. My daughter, on the other hand, is suppose to weigh in at 130. I don't see how that's possible.
She weighed in last week at 200. Mind you, she is a big girl. Large frame, etc. We've offered her a really neat prize if she looses 50 pounds in a healthy way. Honestly, I think that 50 is unrealistic for her. She'll never be a Kathy Ireland, or Bo Derek (back in the day), etc. I just want her to feel good. She doesn't hurt (back, knees etc), but could use a little toning up. She's begun and exercise program and that's the best thing about it all. She is becoming active.
Question is: who knows best? the charts, or her mother?
Kay
She weighed in last week at 200. Mind you, she is a big girl. Large frame, etc. We've offered her a really neat prize if she looses 50 pounds in a healthy way. Honestly, I think that 50 is unrealistic for her. She'll never be a Kathy Ireland, or Bo Derek (back in the day), etc. I just want her to feel good. She doesn't hurt (back, knees etc), but could use a little toning up. She's begun and exercise program and that's the best thing about it all. She is becoming active.
Question is: who knows best? the charts, or her mother?
Kay
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03-21-03, 07:56 AM
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Chris,
What chart do you use? This one shows me at a healthy weight, and most show me as underweight. Also, it shows my daughter as almost obese? She is not obese. Overweight yes, but not obese.
Kay
What chart do you use? This one shows me at a healthy weight, and most show me as underweight. Also, it shows my daughter as almost obese? She is not obese. Overweight yes, but not obese.
Kay
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Hello
I used a chart I found on WebMD. My BMI is something like 29. I could lose about 10 lbs but I do have a large frame which BMI doesn't take into account
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03-21-03, 06:47 PM
BMI discussion
From webmd.com
The BMI is one of the most accurate ways to determine whether or not an adult is overweight. BMI uses a person's weight and height to gauge total body fat.
BMI is calculated by dividing a person's weight (in kilograms) by his or her height (in meters, squared). BMI can also be calculated by multiplying weight (in pounds) by 705, then dividing by height (in inches) twice.
The chart below shows examples of body mass indexes. The figure at which your height corresponds with your weight is your body mass index.
What Is a Healthy BMI?
A person with a BMI of 24 or less is considered to be an ideal weight. A person with a BMI of 25-29.9 is considered to be overweight. Individuals who fall into the BMI range of 25 to 34.9, and have a waist size of over 40 inches for men and 35 inches for women, are considered to be at especially high risk for obesity-related health problems, such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease. A BMI over 40 indicates that a person is morbidly obese. This can increases a person's risk of death from any cause by 50%-150%.
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Next: Weight-Related Health Problems >
Reviewed by The Cleveland Clinic Department of Nutritional Therapy.
Edited by Charlotte E. Grayson, MD, March 2002.
Copyright ©2002 content, The Cleveland Clinic. The information provided by The Cleveland Clinic is not intended to replace the medical advice of your doctor or health-care provider. Please consult your health-care provider for advice about a specific medical condition. For additional health information, please contact the Health Information Center at The Cleveland Clinic, (216) 444-3771 or toll-free (800) 223-2273, Ext. 43771.
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The BMI is one of the most accurate ways to determine whether or not an adult is overweight. BMI uses a person's weight and height to gauge total body fat.
BMI is calculated by dividing a person's weight (in kilograms) by his or her height (in meters, squared). BMI can also be calculated by multiplying weight (in pounds) by 705, then dividing by height (in inches) twice.
The chart below shows examples of body mass indexes. The figure at which your height corresponds with your weight is your body mass index.
What Is a Healthy BMI?
A person with a BMI of 24 or less is considered to be an ideal weight. A person with a BMI of 25-29.9 is considered to be overweight. Individuals who fall into the BMI range of 25 to 34.9, and have a waist size of over 40 inches for men and 35 inches for women, are considered to be at especially high risk for obesity-related health problems, such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease. A BMI over 40 indicates that a person is morbidly obese. This can increases a person's risk of death from any cause by 50%-150%.
(The chart would not transfer.)
Next: Weight-Related Health Problems >
Reviewed by The Cleveland Clinic Department of Nutritional Therapy.
Edited by Charlotte E. Grayson, MD, March 2002.
Copyright ©2002 content, The Cleveland Clinic. The information provided by The Cleveland Clinic is not intended to replace the medical advice of your doctor or health-care provider. Please consult your health-care provider for advice about a specific medical condition. For additional health information, please contact the Health Information Center at The Cleveland Clinic, (216) 444-3771 or toll-free (800) 223-2273, Ext. 43771.
© 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
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Okay, with calculator in hand 
, I determine that my BMI is 19.
That is 129 x 705/69/69 (if you use the 69x2 principle it says my bmi is 654 something LOL).
So Elizabeth would be 200 x 705=141,000/69=2043.5/69=29.6 (30). She is thick through the waist, too.
So, this means that I can quit worrying about how skinny I am and just focus on strengthing my heart, lungs and body.
Now with Elizabeth, I need to focus on eating healthy, and exercise and losing some of the weight. Okay. Sure don't want my 15yo to be cursed with the problems listed below.
Thanks guys!
Kay
, I determine that my BMI is 19. That is 129 x 705/69/69 (if you use the 69x2 principle it says my bmi is 654 something LOL).
So Elizabeth would be 200 x 705=141,000/69=2043.5/69=29.6 (30). She is thick through the waist, too.
So, this means that I can quit worrying about how skinny I am and just focus on strengthing my heart, lungs and body.
Now with Elizabeth, I need to focus on eating healthy, and exercise and losing some of the weight. Okay. Sure don't want my 15yo to be cursed with the problems listed below.
Thanks guys!
Kay
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03-21-03, 06:57 PM
Obese vs. overweight
Obese is a term used when someone is 20% above ideal weight. Morbidly obese is a term that indicates that the extreme weight obviously restricts normal life activities, from our perspective. Even these terms seem to be flexible.
All the extra weight is hard on the knees and hips. It predisposes people to type 2 diabetes and is a constant strain on the heart. Unlike muscle, fat has to be carried. It does not participate in the activity of the body. It is just a burden.
The only truly accurate BMI test that I know of is the test where a person is immersed in water and the displaced water is measure.
All the extra weight is hard on the knees and hips. It predisposes people to type 2 diabetes and is a constant strain on the heart. Unlike muscle, fat has to be carried. It does not participate in the activity of the body. It is just a burden.
The only truly accurate BMI test that I know of is the test where a person is immersed in water and the displaced water is measure.
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BMI must be pure BS in my case
My BMI came out to be 32.1 even though I only have a 36 waist. I am 6'5", 270 lbs but I do have a good sized frame. My thighs are 28" around each and they are rather firm. I cannot pinch fat from around them. How can I be severly overweight then?
I used a calculator and did 270*705/77/77 to come up with this BMI figure. I know I could stand to lose about 10 lbs, but that isn't severely overweight is it?
I used a calculator and did 270*705/77/77 to come up with this BMI figure. I know I could stand to lose about 10 lbs, but that isn't severely overweight is it?
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03-24-03, 06:25 AM
bmi
is useless for weightlifters, atheletes or anyone with a high lean muscle mass.
For example, someone who is 6'2" and 220 is considered overweight by the BMI tables. What if this person is in great shape and has 15-16% body fat? At this point BMI has no meaning. There is no such thing as one size fits all.
Better way to measure whether one is fat or not is to measure percentage of body fat. This can be done at a sports clinic with calipers, water displacement test or you can DIY with a cloth tape measure to get a rough number here:
http://www.healthcentral.com/cooltoo...s/bodyfat1.cfm
For example, someone who is 6'2" and 220 is considered overweight by the BMI tables. What if this person is in great shape and has 15-16% body fat? At this point BMI has no meaning. There is no such thing as one size fits all.
Better way to measure whether one is fat or not is to measure percentage of body fat. This can be done at a sports clinic with calipers, water displacement test or you can DIY with a cloth tape measure to get a rough number here:
http://www.healthcentral.com/cooltoo...s/bodyfat1.cfm
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Gheez
I'm supposed to be 140 to 180 according to the chart @ 6'2"
260 is my actual weight w/ a 40" waist making be quite "obese"
140 for a large framed guy like myself ?? I would make Ally Mcbeal look fat.
I was 150 in high school at my currrent hieght and was quite a beanpole 28" waist
Don't belive the charts !!
260 is my actual weight w/ a 40" waist making be quite "obese"
140 for a large framed guy like myself ?? I would make Ally Mcbeal look fat.
I was 150 in high school at my currrent hieght and was quite a beanpole 28" waist
Don't belive the charts !!
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When I went to the gym, they measured a bunch of different ways, then fed the measurements into a program that took all the things we've mentioned into account.
According to the charts alone, I'm an ideal weight. However, the gym figures determined that I'm underweight and could stand to use a few extra pounds on me to help support my joints.
Kay
According to the charts alone, I'm an ideal weight. However, the gym figures determined that I'm underweight and could stand to use a few extra pounds on me to help support my joints.
Kay
