Calorie Counting. Dieting & Weight Loss
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Requesting the calories of items not already pre-packaged. Specifically fresh fruits, produce, vegetables and sea food items.
Examples:
Bananas, Oranges, Peaches, Nectarines, Apples, Lettuce, Celery, Carrots, Pears, Plums and other fresh foods.
Any source you can offer would be a helpful contribution to myself, the forum and would be greatly appreciated.
Suggestions:
Use an existing photo copy of a current calorie counting chart.
Use note pad, in windows, to type a list of the calories from any source you currently have. Copy and paste it into this forum.
Provide links to dieting web sites and online pages listing the calories for non packaged food items.
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Examples:
Bananas, Oranges, Peaches, Nectarines, Apples, Lettuce, Celery, Carrots, Pears, Plums and other fresh foods.
Any source you can offer would be a helpful contribution to myself, the forum and would be greatly appreciated.
Suggestions:
Use an existing photo copy of a current calorie counting chart.
Use note pad, in windows, to type a list of the calories from any source you currently have. Copy and paste it into this forum.
Provide links to dieting web sites and online pages listing the calories for non packaged food items.
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Counting Calories
Hi I'm not allowed to count calories any more. Got to competitive and end up with less than 500 a day, actually ran out of B vit. Dr gave me shots and yelled alot. If really want to count though the little books at the grocery store are a good source. It maybe better to just try and drink water and stick to the food guide.
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Hello housewifetoo
If calore counting is currently not the means used to determine how much calorie intake each food item has, how can one then determine the daily calorie intake count?
Example:
If one has to lose some weight and has to reduce the daily calorie intake count to say 1800 or 2100 calories per day, how can that be figured?
The topic intent here isn't totally for reasons of health or obesity.
No doctors orders, {because "lose weight" is what all medical doctors always say when at a loss for any other words...hahaha}
No weight loss classes, etc. But rather as a self help method of losing some unwanted pounds or simply not gaining any further weight. Thank you for mentioning those tiny booklets found in grocery stores etc. Never thought of that. Thanks...
Any further advice or help on this topic or a similar topic having to do with dieting and or weight lose would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Tom
If calore counting is currently not the means used to determine how much calorie intake each food item has, how can one then determine the daily calorie intake count?
Example:
If one has to lose some weight and has to reduce the daily calorie intake count to say 1800 or 2100 calories per day, how can that be figured?
The topic intent here isn't totally for reasons of health or obesity.
No doctors orders, {because "lose weight" is what all medical doctors always say when at a loss for any other words...hahaha}
No weight loss classes, etc. But rather as a self help method of losing some unwanted pounds or simply not gaining any further weight. Thank you for mentioning those tiny booklets found in grocery stores etc. Never thought of that. Thanks...

Any further advice or help on this topic or a similar topic having to do with dieting and or weight lose would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Tom
#4
Hi Tom
I'm just now getting back to watching my weight. I gained alot having kids and then when my thyroid turned off. I've joined an exercise class, I try to walk more. As for counting cals I just as I said try to stick to the food guide instead. Lets face it most of us dont eat properly. I make sure the kids get three squares and healthy snacks. I on the other had get busy and forget to eat so my big effort is to eat three small heathy meals. Oh and only have small doses of my down fall... chocolate and chips. Ok and I have to watch the pop... More water for all. Any way I will let you know how it goes....
I'm just now getting back to watching my weight. I gained alot having kids and then when my thyroid turned off. I've joined an exercise class, I try to walk more. As for counting cals I just as I said try to stick to the food guide instead. Lets face it most of us dont eat properly. I make sure the kids get three squares and healthy snacks. I on the other had get busy and forget to eat so my big effort is to eat three small heathy meals. Oh and only have small doses of my down fall... chocolate and chips. Ok and I have to watch the pop... More water for all. Any way I will let you know how it goes....
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Hi: Twelvepole
You Stated:
"One of my observations of people who are battling weight problems is that they eat too fast. It takes about 20 minutes to get that full feeling. If you eat too fast you may have gotten full long before the 20 minutes."
My Reply:
Sure clears up that issue for me....
I thought it was "Eat ALL I can IN 20 minutes!".....
Actually, thanks for a well written, very informative reply and all the tips. Very much appreciated....
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You Stated:
"One of my observations of people who are battling weight problems is that they eat too fast. It takes about 20 minutes to get that full feeling. If you eat too fast you may have gotten full long before the 20 minutes."
My Reply:
Sure clears up that issue for me....

I thought it was "Eat ALL I can IN 20 minutes!".....

Actually, thanks for a well written, very informative reply and all the tips. Very much appreciated....

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Hi.... Well I went to your link. I didn't find anything real there. There is an interesting argument about advice to a 15 year old boy and vit "T". there are sorts of suport groups on the net. The one I have been visiting almost everyone is on weight watchers. As for starting out slow.... that is the only way it can be when you thyriod is down. My Dr only wants a 3 pound loss in 2 months. Oh well at least I haven't found any lately :-)
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Hello: Housewifetoo & Twelvepole
I just got an IDEA!....
GREAT IDEA as a matter of fact!
Just what this topic needs.... a moderator or 2 moderators.
Either or both of you care to moderate this forum topic?
Both of you have excellent knowledges on the topic.
Or would either one of you care to co moderate it with me?
NAY...didn't think so...I have ZERO knowledge on the topic...
However, I do like to toss in "My 2 Cents" often and everywhere.
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I just got an IDEA!....

GREAT IDEA as a matter of fact!
Just what this topic needs.... a moderator or 2 moderators.
Either or both of you care to moderate this forum topic?
Both of you have excellent knowledges on the topic.
Or would either one of you care to co moderate it with me?
NAY...didn't think so...I have ZERO knowledge on the topic...

However, I do like to toss in "My 2 Cents" often and everywhere.
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#8
Exercise
Who has time for it? I don't. As a small business owner, I work all the time. When I get home, about all I have the energy to do is sit in front of the computer and communicate with my friends at doityourself.com.
We need to start exercising. We can find 10 minute opportunities throughout the day. While standing in front of the washer and dryer waiting on the cycles to finish, we can do stretches and run in place and do aerobic exercises. While sitting at red lights we can suck our stomach muscles in and release them and do our Kegel exercises.
Exercise must involve cardiovascular fitiness which requires walking, jogging, swimming, or aerobic exercise to get the respiratory rate up and exercise the heart muscles. This time of the year it is difficult and scary for some to venture forth in the dark afer you get home to walk or jog. Joining a local indoor swim club is an option. Aerobic exercise can be done at home in front of the washer/dryer, kitchen sink, or anywhere else where we have to wait on something. We might look a little silly, but who cares?
Strength training is also important. If you don't have weights, exercise machines, rowing or other fancy equipment, that's o.k. The elastic tubing that athletes use is great for strengthening muscles in arms and legs. Wrist and ankle weights are also popular for adding resistance and strengthening muscles.
Setting goals can defeat you from the very beginning. One must be realistic. About a pound a week is very realistic. And, one must remember that there are plateaus in weight loss where one seems to stay at the same weight for a while. Set little goals. Start out with 10 minutes of exercise a day. Move up to two 10 minute sessions, then three, then four, so that you are up to an hour a day. You can do push ups on the kitchen counter while you wait for something in the oven. You can exercise your legs while in your chair at work. When you go to the pantry and grab a couple cans of food, you can use those as weights. Find little ways to incorporate exercising your body during the day. Getting started is the hardest thing to do. Do a little bit each day and work your way up so that you achieve cardiovascular and muscular fitness.
We need to start exercising. We can find 10 minute opportunities throughout the day. While standing in front of the washer and dryer waiting on the cycles to finish, we can do stretches and run in place and do aerobic exercises. While sitting at red lights we can suck our stomach muscles in and release them and do our Kegel exercises.
Exercise must involve cardiovascular fitiness which requires walking, jogging, swimming, or aerobic exercise to get the respiratory rate up and exercise the heart muscles. This time of the year it is difficult and scary for some to venture forth in the dark afer you get home to walk or jog. Joining a local indoor swim club is an option. Aerobic exercise can be done at home in front of the washer/dryer, kitchen sink, or anywhere else where we have to wait on something. We might look a little silly, but who cares?
Strength training is also important. If you don't have weights, exercise machines, rowing or other fancy equipment, that's o.k. The elastic tubing that athletes use is great for strengthening muscles in arms and legs. Wrist and ankle weights are also popular for adding resistance and strengthening muscles.
Setting goals can defeat you from the very beginning. One must be realistic. About a pound a week is very realistic. And, one must remember that there are plateaus in weight loss where one seems to stay at the same weight for a while. Set little goals. Start out with 10 minutes of exercise a day. Move up to two 10 minute sessions, then three, then four, so that you are up to an hour a day. You can do push ups on the kitchen counter while you wait for something in the oven. You can exercise your legs while in your chair at work. When you go to the pantry and grab a couple cans of food, you can use those as weights. Find little ways to incorporate exercising your body during the day. Getting started is the hardest thing to do. Do a little bit each day and work your way up so that you achieve cardiovascular and muscular fitness.
#9
I am no expert but am trying some things that have worked for me in the past. I needed to lose a few pounds before the holidays but now it's worse. Remembered that I used to drink a couple of ounces of grape juice right before, or with, my meal, in a wine glass. Used a smaller plate, served smaller portions and really dressed it up, like a special occasion. Then lit a candle for atmosphere and then slowly savored every bite. Eating alone was always the time I ate too much, too fast, so this slows it down and makes it more enjoyable. The "eating vs. dining thing". Anyway, I was eating less and enjoying it more.
Also, always said I couldn't find time to excersise in the winter. Too far from the gym, too cold outside, you know, excuses. I decided that if I had time to watch TV, I had time to excercise. Commercial breaks are getting longer all the time so whenever one comes on I jump up and jog in place till the program comes back on. Next break it's crunches, next is leg lifts or whatever. Commercial breaks on local TV can be as much as 6 minutes so if you watch 1 one hour program with commercials you can get a little bit of a workout and any movement is better than sitting there. Pretty soon you're feeling good enough to move to something more serious. Wish me luck.
Also, always said I couldn't find time to excersise in the winter. Too far from the gym, too cold outside, you know, excuses. I decided that if I had time to watch TV, I had time to excercise. Commercial breaks are getting longer all the time so whenever one comes on I jump up and jog in place till the program comes back on. Next break it's crunches, next is leg lifts or whatever. Commercial breaks on local TV can be as much as 6 minutes so if you watch 1 one hour program with commercials you can get a little bit of a workout and any movement is better than sitting there. Pretty soon you're feeling good enough to move to something more serious. Wish me luck.
#10
Mental tricks & exercising in spurts
Jo, you sound like my kind of person. I remember years ago that I read an interview with Mayme Eisenhower. It was after Ike died. She said that one of the worst things a person could do was to dine alone. If I am alone, I grab anything and stand at the kitchen counter with the newspaper, a catalog, or the crossword. I need to get more motivated. I remember when I was much younger and svelte that I would exercise on commercials. I also had the Jane Fonda videos. Later, it was some popular model. I also had a bicycle and took brisk walks and sometimes broke into a jog.
I don't have a TV, so commercials are not available to me now. The old trick of using a smaller plate is a good one. A smaller plate, making dinner a dining experience, and eating SLOWLY helps a lot. Also, never eating seconds. I never eat desserts. If I am a dinner guest, rather than offend the hostess, I always have a"taste". I never order dessert in a restaurant. Like the grape juice, a big glass of water before meals, takes up some space in our tummies. Never eating seconds is another good trick. And, there is also the mind over matter for some of those irresistable foods, telling myself "I don't like that any more". I never buy junk food. I never eat the potato chips that they put on my plate at restaurants ("I don't like those any more."). I never order bacon or sausage at breakfast. If I have breakfast at a restaurant, it's always a scrambled egg sandwich on toast.
I know they recommend that one should never skip breakfast as it is the most important meal of the day. If I eat breakfast, I am starved by noon. If I don't eat breakfast, most of the time I can go all day. Many people have told me the same thing. Any ideas on that one?
I don't think that if a person has a craving for something in particular that they should deny themselves. If it's chocolate, have a bite, not a whole bag of M&M's. Satisfy the cravings.
Watching how much we consume (whether we count the calories or not) is important, as well as exercising. Squeezing in the exercise and getting up the respiratory rate in brief spurts, whether during commercials, standing in front of the oven while something is browning, or in front of the washer or dryer while a cycle completes is a few moments of time that one can steal for oneself.
I have never determined who said we had to have three meals a day. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The body is not programmed to eat only three times. Several small respites a day is much more healthful. If the body is programmed to eat several times a day and we have been socialized to have 3 big meals a day, our bodies still want those other 'little' meals. So, what many do is eat the 3 biggies and all the other ones too. Perhaps it's the 3 meals a day program that is affecting many of us. Several small meals a day might be more beneficial. Or, if one does go by the 3 meals a day program, then there should be no eating between meals.
I don't have a TV, so commercials are not available to me now. The old trick of using a smaller plate is a good one. A smaller plate, making dinner a dining experience, and eating SLOWLY helps a lot. Also, never eating seconds. I never eat desserts. If I am a dinner guest, rather than offend the hostess, I always have a"taste". I never order dessert in a restaurant. Like the grape juice, a big glass of water before meals, takes up some space in our tummies. Never eating seconds is another good trick. And, there is also the mind over matter for some of those irresistable foods, telling myself "I don't like that any more". I never buy junk food. I never eat the potato chips that they put on my plate at restaurants ("I don't like those any more."). I never order bacon or sausage at breakfast. If I have breakfast at a restaurant, it's always a scrambled egg sandwich on toast.
I know they recommend that one should never skip breakfast as it is the most important meal of the day. If I eat breakfast, I am starved by noon. If I don't eat breakfast, most of the time I can go all day. Many people have told me the same thing. Any ideas on that one?
I don't think that if a person has a craving for something in particular that they should deny themselves. If it's chocolate, have a bite, not a whole bag of M&M's. Satisfy the cravings.
Watching how much we consume (whether we count the calories or not) is important, as well as exercising. Squeezing in the exercise and getting up the respiratory rate in brief spurts, whether during commercials, standing in front of the oven while something is browning, or in front of the washer or dryer while a cycle completes is a few moments of time that one can steal for oneself.
I have never determined who said we had to have three meals a day. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The body is not programmed to eat only three times. Several small respites a day is much more healthful. If the body is programmed to eat several times a day and we have been socialized to have 3 big meals a day, our bodies still want those other 'little' meals. So, what many do is eat the 3 biggies and all the other ones too. Perhaps it's the 3 meals a day program that is affecting many of us. Several small meals a day might be more beneficial. Or, if one does go by the 3 meals a day program, then there should be no eating between meals.
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Thanks Tom, for your help and support. I find this site very helpful in many ways. I'll check it daily and hopefully others will as well. Good luck with your mission. And I'll wish a little luck for myself, as I know I will need it.
p.s., I'm not a fan of exercising either!
Thanks again,
Tristina
p.s., I'm not a fan of exercising either!

Thanks again,
Tristina

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Hi; Twelvepole
You stated:
"I know they recommend that one should never skip breakfast as it is the most important meal of the day. If I eat breakfast, I am starved by noon. If I don't eat breakfast, most of the time I can go all day. Many people have told me the same thing. Any ideas on that one?"
My reply:
What I have heard is that the body thinks it's "Starving" when food isn't eaten. Therefore, it is reluctant to release fat to burn which turns into energy.
I have repeatedly told my body not to worry.....not to worry about more food.....there is plenty more food where that came from.......see....
....right there in the fridgy...
....but the body fails to comply with my demands to "Shed Pounds"...
Starving a body just may not be a good idea. The tale of attempting to starve the body could be true.
Hi: SwEetAngL
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You stated:
"I know they recommend that one should never skip breakfast as it is the most important meal of the day. If I eat breakfast, I am starved by noon. If I don't eat breakfast, most of the time I can go all day. Many people have told me the same thing. Any ideas on that one?"
My reply:
What I have heard is that the body thinks it's "Starving" when food isn't eaten. Therefore, it is reluctant to release fat to burn which turns into energy.
I have repeatedly told my body not to worry.....not to worry about more food.....there is plenty more food where that came from.......see....



Starving a body just may not be a good idea. The tale of attempting to starve the body could be true.
Hi: SwEetAngL
Welcome aboard the "Dieting Band Wagon."
"I Hate Dieting & Excercise"....."I Love Boating & Fishing"....

#13
Calorie Counting
I've never been a breakfast person. When I got up to go fishing at 4 AM, I stuck my peanutbutter & jelly sandwich in one pocket of my fatigue coat and the velveeta cheese in the other for bait. I took a thermos of coffee, but it was about noon before I was interested in taking a bite. If I'd eaten something at 4 AM, I would be starving by 9. Are you saying, Tom, that we should go ahead and eat and give into the hunger pains? I don't get them unless I eat.
O.K., Sweet Angel, you are in trouble now. Give us your 2 cents, too.
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hehe... ok ok... i give in...
I sometimes eat something small for breakfast, but I too agree that when you eat breakfast you are more hungry for lunch than if you were to not eat breakfast at all. However, I'm trying to eat a Nutri-grain bar or something that that is small but satisfying for breakfast, that way when your lunch hunger pains arrive, you can eat something more fulfilling since you went light on breakfast. How does that sound? agree? disagree?


#15
breakfast: quality vs. quanity
I'm with you guys. I thought I was doing real good cause I could skip breakfast, just a little coffee to keep me going, and I wouldn't feel as hungry. Trouble was I would run out of steam in the early afternoon. Just a small low blood sugar problem. Found that a big breakfast just made me hungrier, too. I started having a small protein drink in the morning with vitamins and didn't get hungry and didn't run out of energy. I would mix up a little milk and a banana and take my vitamins and have energy to last. For me, eating a big breakfast seems to stretch my stomach so that it needs more "filler" sooner. If I keep breakfast small but nutritious it seems to help. Also, when I get hungry later, I would drink a bottle of water. Also, if I don't eat after 5pm my stomach seems to shrink over night and I don't want as much to eat anyway. If I can keep portions small my shrunken stomach doesn't seem to scream at me as much. Well, except when I think about chocolate. Gotta run, the cookies are ready to come out of the oven.
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#16
Breakfast
I've been dropping a banana or piece of fruit in my purse on the way out the door to work. That's breakfast. I do much better with lunch if I take the time to make a cheese sandwich and cut up some carrots and celery.
#18
Diet and dining out
It is difficult to find something on the menu at local restaurants that falls within a healthy diet. At best, the vegetables are a baked potato and a salad. Ordering soup and salad is a good option. Tell them to put the sour cream and butter on the side. Don't deny yourself these goodies, if you are going to crave them. Complement the potato with just a slight taste. Salads are delicious with just vinegar and oil, and go easy on the oil and avoid the rich creamy dressings like bleu cheese and ranch. (Yum!) Order the chicken or fish rather than the steak. With pasta dishes, I eat the goodies and a few bites of the pasta and leave the rest. We don't have to clean our plates even if our parents threatened us if we didn't!
Avoid restaurants with buffets like the plague. It's almost impossible to exercise self control. Even at the salad bars, it's too tempting to go back and scoop out an extra scoop of macaroni or potato salad.
It's hard to find the old diner type of restaurants that serve vegetables so you can order a vegetable plate. Those are my favorite. Of course, I always get mashed potatoes, but with other vegetables and no meat entree, I don't feel so guilty.
And, I avoid desserts. Sometimes, splitting a dessert with a dining partner is no biggie.
Avoid restaurants with buffets like the plague. It's almost impossible to exercise self control. Even at the salad bars, it's too tempting to go back and scoop out an extra scoop of macaroni or potato salad.
It's hard to find the old diner type of restaurants that serve vegetables so you can order a vegetable plate. Those are my favorite. Of course, I always get mashed potatoes, but with other vegetables and no meat entree, I don't feel so guilty.
And, I avoid desserts. Sometimes, splitting a dessert with a dining partner is no biggie.
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Okay, I'm jumping in here, too. I noticed a few comments about "starving" the body (no breakfast - not as hungry at lunch, etc). The main thing to remember is your body is trying to survive each day. If it picks up that you are withholding too many calories, your metabolism will slow down. It's trying to hold on to what it needs.
I agree that breakfast is very important. Actually, in Europe, the biggest meal of the day is breakfast, followed by successively smaller meals. If we eat our biggest meal at dinner, the body just doesn't have enough time to break it down before going to bed. It's also a problem for people with high cholesterol. According to my husband's dr., the liver has a grand time with the excess food overnight, turning it into the bad stuff.
My philosphy has always been simple. There is no diet - just proper nutrition and exercise. I think we as a society have gotten so used to "super size" everything - restaurants serving huge portions and the "clean plate" guilt that we had as kids - that we forget what an ACTUAL serving of food really is. At Outback, for instance, one meal on their menu includes TWO 8 oz. pork chops!! Yikes! And I see people eat the whole thing at one sitting.
When I was going to a gym (I now rollerblade around my neighborhood - cheaper!), I could eat more - not a pig-out - but my body needed fuel. Weight bearing exercise is also very important. Muscle burns many more calories than fat.
So, there is my 2 cents worth.
Kim
I agree that breakfast is very important. Actually, in Europe, the biggest meal of the day is breakfast, followed by successively smaller meals. If we eat our biggest meal at dinner, the body just doesn't have enough time to break it down before going to bed. It's also a problem for people with high cholesterol. According to my husband's dr., the liver has a grand time with the excess food overnight, turning it into the bad stuff.
My philosphy has always been simple. There is no diet - just proper nutrition and exercise. I think we as a society have gotten so used to "super size" everything - restaurants serving huge portions and the "clean plate" guilt that we had as kids - that we forget what an ACTUAL serving of food really is. At Outback, for instance, one meal on their menu includes TWO 8 oz. pork chops!! Yikes! And I see people eat the whole thing at one sitting.
When I was going to a gym (I now rollerblade around my neighborhood - cheaper!), I could eat more - not a pig-out - but my body needed fuel. Weight bearing exercise is also very important. Muscle burns many more calories than fat.
So, there is my 2 cents worth.

Kim
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Hi: Kim
I fully agree with you. The body will think it is starving if food is deprived.
Excercise does a body good.
I personally do 2 sit ups a day, each done by time.
One sit up is done when the alarm clock goes off and it's time to get up....
The other sit up is done when it's time to eat. I sit up at the dinner table...
And there you have it...."My Entire Two Cents Worth."
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I fully agree with you. The body will think it is starving if food is deprived.
Excercise does a body good.
I personally do 2 sit ups a day, each done by time.
One sit up is done when the alarm clock goes off and it's time to get up....

The other sit up is done when it's time to eat. I sit up at the dinner table...

And there you have it...."My Entire Two Cents Worth."
Favorite Quote: "Keep Smiling"
Smiling creates minor workplace distractions. Makes bosses and your piers wonder what in the &!#@#!$&$#@!% are you up to now!".....

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Hello: Dieting Do-It-Yourself Mods and Members....
Look what I found buried deep in the archives. One of the original posts in this dieting forum I created.
Since the inception of this forum, I am glad to note I have lost 30+ pounds.
Very much closer to a weight I want to be near to both look and feel better...
Dieting works. Would loose weight much faster if I exercised but exercise is not a word in my dictionary....
However, I am still doing my 2 daily sit ups...
Dieting has become a daily used word and daily eating pattern. Not an easy task but well worth it.
Cut out the fats and eat less. Simple, effective, money saving slow weight loss without really dieting and best of all, it works.
What is your dieting method?
How much did you loose?
How much excess weight do you want to loose?
Join in.
Start your own personal dieting weight loss log in this forum.
Read the how to info contained in the forum announcemnt and Sticky Note.
Read the archives and how others have lost weight and the methods they used.
Good Luck Dieting.

Look what I found buried deep in the archives. One of the original posts in this dieting forum I created.
Since the inception of this forum, I am glad to note I have lost 30+ pounds.
Very much closer to a weight I want to be near to both look and feel better...

Dieting works. Would loose weight much faster if I exercised but exercise is not a word in my dictionary....

However, I am still doing my 2 daily sit ups...

Dieting has become a daily used word and daily eating pattern. Not an easy task but well worth it.
Cut out the fats and eat less. Simple, effective, money saving slow weight loss without really dieting and best of all, it works.
What is your dieting method?
How much did you loose?
How much excess weight do you want to loose?
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Here's my contribution. My 16yo daughter was given this as a starting point by her personal trainer. Its not that hard to follow, and actually we enjoy the foods. My fav is the balsamic vinegrette dressing.
I apologize for the name brands, but so far they are the ones that have the lowest fat and/or carbs that I've found. Some other brands are low in fat/carbs, too, however they contains tons of sodium (salt) so be aware of that when checking labels.
My daughter lost 10 pounds within 3 weeks, and that's without us going to the gym LOL! 10 pounds isn't a lot at this time since she's 46% body fat. The object is, as mentioned above, is to not ever let your body think its starving or it will begin storing fat to 'protect' you.
Here's the link (copy and paste into browser address bar). If there is a problem with it, please let me know and I'll fix it.
http://www.kaybyrd.com/diy/lowcarb.html
Kay
I apologize for the name brands, but so far they are the ones that have the lowest fat and/or carbs that I've found. Some other brands are low in fat/carbs, too, however they contains tons of sodium (salt) so be aware of that when checking labels.
My daughter lost 10 pounds within 3 weeks, and that's without us going to the gym LOL! 10 pounds isn't a lot at this time since she's 46% body fat. The object is, as mentioned above, is to not ever let your body think its starving or it will begin storing fat to 'protect' you.
Here's the link (copy and paste into browser address bar). If there is a problem with it, please let me know and I'll fix it.
http://www.kaybyrd.com/diy/lowcarb.html
Kay
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Hello Kay
Thanks for your contribution to the dieting topic once again and the link. Wondering where all our prior dieting friends are?
Dieting isn't much fun granted. Having others join in helps. Encouragement to continue a weight loss program even when the results are slow in coming and at times can be difficult, in a group setting helps.
Being anonymous in an online web site forum setting such as this can also be a benefit. Sharing our methods, progress and results helps everyone without the personal competition of weight loss clinics or in the public gyms.
A pound loss here and a pound lost there is always better than gaining that same weight. Slow weight loss is fine with me too.
The pounds took years to accumulate, so it is not expected to be lost in months. At least not by me. I am quite satisfied with a slow weight loss. Requires less work and very little exercise outside of the normal daily routine.
All perfectly fine with me. 2 sit ups a day, yard work, gardening, boating, fishing, camping and other outside activities while eating less fatty foods, no deserts or snack foods, in between meals snacking plus eating in smaller quanities works for me.
Thanks for your contribution to the dieting topic once again and the link. Wondering where all our prior dieting friends are?
Dieting isn't much fun granted. Having others join in helps. Encouragement to continue a weight loss program even when the results are slow in coming and at times can be difficult, in a group setting helps.
Being anonymous in an online web site forum setting such as this can also be a benefit. Sharing our methods, progress and results helps everyone without the personal competition of weight loss clinics or in the public gyms.
A pound loss here and a pound lost there is always better than gaining that same weight. Slow weight loss is fine with me too.
The pounds took years to accumulate, so it is not expected to be lost in months. At least not by me. I am quite satisfied with a slow weight loss. Requires less work and very little exercise outside of the normal daily routine.
All perfectly fine with me. 2 sit ups a day, yard work, gardening, boating, fishing, camping and other outside activities while eating less fatty foods, no deserts or snack foods, in between meals snacking plus eating in smaller quanities works for me.
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I will throw in my 2 cents worth. I started to follow the Change One program outlined in Reader's Digest. I did not buy the program, although it is for sale. I just took the article in the magazine to heart.
It is not about dieting, it is about being in control of what you eat. To me, those are two entirely different things. Dieting is giving up things that you would otherwise prefer to eat. Being in control is eating the things that you want to eat, but controlling it.
Not that I had all that much weight to lose, but I had picked up a few pounds here and there over the years. I started about the first of the year getting in control. I have lost 18 pounds. Now at 181 from 199 in December.
A side benefit of controlling what I eat has been a dramatic reduction in problems with acid reflux. I used to be on medication for it. Now, I have a slight episode only once every couple of weeks. I ditched the medication long ago.
At my physical exam in May, the summary was that I was in good shape, especially considering my age. Bah. With any luck, we will all get older.
I consider that having to lose any appreciable amount of weight to be a considerable undertaking. You body tends to resist change; and the habits of many years are the habits of many years. Your knees and hips will be better for it in the future.
It is not about dieting, it is about being in control of what you eat. To me, those are two entirely different things. Dieting is giving up things that you would otherwise prefer to eat. Being in control is eating the things that you want to eat, but controlling it.
Not that I had all that much weight to lose, but I had picked up a few pounds here and there over the years. I started about the first of the year getting in control. I have lost 18 pounds. Now at 181 from 199 in December.
A side benefit of controlling what I eat has been a dramatic reduction in problems with acid reflux. I used to be on medication for it. Now, I have a slight episode only once every couple of weeks. I ditched the medication long ago.
At my physical exam in May, the summary was that I was in good shape, especially considering my age. Bah. With any luck, we will all get older.
I consider that having to lose any appreciable amount of weight to be a considerable undertaking. You body tends to resist change; and the habits of many years are the habits of many years. Your knees and hips will be better for it in the future.
#26
"Being in control is eating the things that you want to eat, but controlling it."
This is one thing the trainer pointer out to us. The things that have helped us is to realize that we actually eat more now than we did before, just at different times and the food is prepared a little bit differently.
I never thought about tuna fish made with bbq sauce before. Its really good. Just go lightly with the sauce, adding to taste. Also, this is the first time in a very long time that we sit down as a family together and eat a full meal. My kids are happier and healthier. I've notice, too, that the acid reflux isn't around like it use to be.
Our family makes a 'party' of grocery shopping. We did make one major purchase: a GForeman grill. I love it! We discovered that on baked potatoes using the Molly McButter makes them taste even butterier (non-word for the day) than with margarine, and to acheive the creaminess that margarine has we use a little bit of low fat milk in the potato along with the Molly McButter.
We have two different proteins in the house. One for the family, and one for me. Mine is high in carbs and calories, the other isn't. We discovered a really great way to make protein shakes! You mix up the shake (we use one of those protein shaker cups to help mix it up) and you can add one tablespoon of non-fat pudding - flavor of your choice!) to it. Shake well, and it is good! Throw it in the blender with a few ice cubes and it darn near tastes and 'feels' like a shake.
The daughters were afraid of not being able to eat the fun stuff like ice cream and cake. I showed them that if we eat it earlier enough, cut a little of the extras out at lunch time, we can have ice cream and low-fat whipped topping with it. We don't look at this as a means to lose weight, but to feel better. These are also treats, not the norm.
I'm not sure if anyone has experienced this, but when we first started eating healthy again our bodies took time to adjust. At first all of us didn't feel good. We had been living on fast food for over a year, and to change our diets affected us for about a week. A little stomach discomfort, sleeping patterns, etc. After about a week we began to feel more energetic, no stomach problems, and even began craving good foods instead of fast food. I tried to eat a takeout burger the other day and it tasted awful!
I mentioned a personal trainer in my post. We no longer use a trainer. Moderate exercise is all we need, not some extreme deal. If we go to the gym, its to enjoy the pool. Sometimes we play basketball, but rarely visit the weight room. The kids prefer to jump on our trampoline with the water hose under it, or just visit the pool. My brother, who is also a personal trainer/weight consultant said that extreme exercise when your first beginning to watch what you eat and eat for better health is not good. He said some very comforting words: extreme anything isn't good for you! He did, however, recommend that now that I've actually gained weight and kept it on for over 6 months that working out would be good for me and help with my taekwondo.
Kay
This is one thing the trainer pointer out to us. The things that have helped us is to realize that we actually eat more now than we did before, just at different times and the food is prepared a little bit differently.
I never thought about tuna fish made with bbq sauce before. Its really good. Just go lightly with the sauce, adding to taste. Also, this is the first time in a very long time that we sit down as a family together and eat a full meal. My kids are happier and healthier. I've notice, too, that the acid reflux isn't around like it use to be.
Our family makes a 'party' of grocery shopping. We did make one major purchase: a GForeman grill. I love it! We discovered that on baked potatoes using the Molly McButter makes them taste even butterier (non-word for the day) than with margarine, and to acheive the creaminess that margarine has we use a little bit of low fat milk in the potato along with the Molly McButter.
We have two different proteins in the house. One for the family, and one for me. Mine is high in carbs and calories, the other isn't. We discovered a really great way to make protein shakes! You mix up the shake (we use one of those protein shaker cups to help mix it up) and you can add one tablespoon of non-fat pudding - flavor of your choice!) to it. Shake well, and it is good! Throw it in the blender with a few ice cubes and it darn near tastes and 'feels' like a shake.
The daughters were afraid of not being able to eat the fun stuff like ice cream and cake. I showed them that if we eat it earlier enough, cut a little of the extras out at lunch time, we can have ice cream and low-fat whipped topping with it. We don't look at this as a means to lose weight, but to feel better. These are also treats, not the norm.
I'm not sure if anyone has experienced this, but when we first started eating healthy again our bodies took time to adjust. At first all of us didn't feel good. We had been living on fast food for over a year, and to change our diets affected us for about a week. A little stomach discomfort, sleeping patterns, etc. After about a week we began to feel more energetic, no stomach problems, and even began craving good foods instead of fast food. I tried to eat a takeout burger the other day and it tasted awful!
I mentioned a personal trainer in my post. We no longer use a trainer. Moderate exercise is all we need, not some extreme deal. If we go to the gym, its to enjoy the pool. Sometimes we play basketball, but rarely visit the weight room. The kids prefer to jump on our trampoline with the water hose under it, or just visit the pool. My brother, who is also a personal trainer/weight consultant said that extreme exercise when your first beginning to watch what you eat and eat for better health is not good. He said some very comforting words: extreme anything isn't good for you! He did, however, recommend that now that I've actually gained weight and kept it on for over 6 months that working out would be good for me and help with my taekwondo.
Kay
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I am not necessarily an advocate of Adkins diet, but I have found that I tend to eat a lot less of the carbohydrates. Yesterday, we were at my MIL's house for lunch and had the carbo stuffing of our lives. I haven't eaten so little protein at a meal in months. Bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich with chips, cucumbers, cole slaw, and a cookie. I felt drugged afterwards.
I will disagree with your trainer, Kay. With advancing age, weight training is very important to maintain flexibility and prevent osteoporosis. Bones don't build and maintain mass without loading. Nothing extreme, but strength training is important. Advancing age being anything over 30.
I will disagree with your trainer, Kay. With advancing age, weight training is very important to maintain flexibility and prevent osteoporosis. Bones don't build and maintain mass without loading. Nothing extreme, but strength training is important. Advancing age being anything over 30.
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I don't actually have a trainer, but my daughter did for a little bit. They came up with a program for me to follow right now. Nothing too aerobic since I get that at tae. The goal is to give me muscle strength to support this weight since as you stated, my bones are not getting denser!
I do Yoga to help with my flexibility as well. Lengthening my muscles has been great! No more joint pains. I feel longer, more flexible and also stronger too. More balanced. Being very tall and thin I often feel lanky and off balanced.
My brother doesn't try to advise us often since he's not around us much. We see him at holiday's since he lives in another state. His biggest concern was my family's diet. As he should be, and as I should have been a long time ago.
I've also discovered that before working out whether at taekwondo, yoga or the gym, if I eat something too sweet or to high in fat I become lightheaded and nausiated. Other times I can feel sluggish and worse for wear after working out.
I think the key is eating better for my family. We all feel better, and in turn feel like getting out for that walk, playing catch in the yard, jumping on the trampoline, etc. Before, we never 'felt' like moving off the couch much less doing anything that required physical exertion!
Kay
I do Yoga to help with my flexibility as well. Lengthening my muscles has been great! No more joint pains. I feel longer, more flexible and also stronger too. More balanced. Being very tall and thin I often feel lanky and off balanced.
My brother doesn't try to advise us often since he's not around us much. We see him at holiday's since he lives in another state. His biggest concern was my family's diet. As he should be, and as I should have been a long time ago.
I've also discovered that before working out whether at taekwondo, yoga or the gym, if I eat something too sweet or to high in fat I become lightheaded and nausiated. Other times I can feel sluggish and worse for wear after working out.
I think the key is eating better for my family. We all feel better, and in turn feel like getting out for that walk, playing catch in the yard, jumping on the trampoline, etc. Before, we never 'felt' like moving off the couch much less doing anything that required physical exertion!
Kay
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Kay
You said "physical exertion." I'm getting tired just thinking about it...LOL! Just humor. Actually I am an always busy person.
Doing stuff all the time around the home front, whether preparing for the next days event or maintaining the grounds, etc. Still finding & allowing short in between breaks at this keyboard. My resting time...
Potatoes? I love them too. I use real butter not margarine or any other substitutes. Add sour cream, sprinkle on chives, bacon bits. Or forgo all that and simply sprinkle on garlic powder. either way makes a nice meal with small piece of meat, soup & or salad.
Tuna and BBQ sauce? Thanks for that idea. Sounds great!
Protein shakes & add one tablespoon of non-fat pudding. Another great idea and suggestion. Thanks.
I'm Hungry already...
You said "physical exertion." I'm getting tired just thinking about it...LOL! Just humor. Actually I am an always busy person.
Doing stuff all the time around the home front, whether preparing for the next days event or maintaining the grounds, etc. Still finding & allowing short in between breaks at this keyboard. My resting time...

Potatoes? I love them too. I use real butter not margarine or any other substitutes. Add sour cream, sprinkle on chives, bacon bits. Or forgo all that and simply sprinkle on garlic powder. either way makes a nice meal with small piece of meat, soup & or salad.
Tuna and BBQ sauce? Thanks for that idea. Sounds great!
Protein shakes & add one tablespoon of non-fat pudding. Another great idea and suggestion. Thanks.
I'm Hungry already...

#30
I like the protein shakes! My shakes are very fattening and double chocolate so I don't add anything to them. However, the kids' protein shakes are low in fat and calories and honestly, taste pretty bad! This is where the pudding comes into play. You can let it sit in the fridge for about 15-20 minutes and it will thicken a little, plus the taste meld (is that a word?) together and the protein taste isn't there any more.
Another tasty afternoon treat is to take 4 oz orange juice, 4 oz water, 1 scoop vanilla protein, 1 tbs banana pudding, and some ice. Throw in a blender and you have a filling, healthy, fruity smoothie!
Kay
Ps. You can actually use more pudding in your shakes or smoothies, but I find that if you let it set, then it gets too thick and feels weird going down LOL.
K.
Another tasty afternoon treat is to take 4 oz orange juice, 4 oz water, 1 scoop vanilla protein, 1 tbs banana pudding, and some ice. Throw in a blender and you have a filling, healthy, fruity smoothie!
Kay
Ps. You can actually use more pudding in your shakes or smoothies, but I find that if you let it set, then it gets too thick and feels weird going down LOL.
K.
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Did you know that tuna is naturally low in fat? It is also low in saturated fat when compared to other protein foods. Tuna adds variety to low fat diets. Tuna is high in protein, low in fat and low in saturated fat. I keep those tiny cans of tuna packed in spring water for and afternoon snack. Because it is already salted, I sprinkle on a little pepper and go for it.
A 3 oz can of Star Kist has 80 calories, 10 of which are fat calories. There are no carbs. Supplies 32% of your daily protein, 14% of daily sodium, 13% of daily cholesterol, and 2% of daily fat requirements based on a 2000 calorie daily diet.
Snap the can, sprinkle on some pepper, use a plastic utensil. Yum! Toss can & utensil in trash, no mess, no dishes.
A 3 oz can of Star Kist has 80 calories, 10 of which are fat calories. There are no carbs. Supplies 32% of your daily protein, 14% of daily sodium, 13% of daily cholesterol, and 2% of daily fat requirements based on a 2000 calorie daily diet.
Snap the can, sprinkle on some pepper, use a plastic utensil. Yum! Toss can & utensil in trash, no mess, no dishes.
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Tunafish? Barf.
I WISH I did like tunafish. I automatically gag when I open a can of the stuff - it's catfood to me. I will say that I tried some fresh grilled tuna - grilled the same day it was caught - basted with some kind of garlic sauce - and wow - it tasted pretty darn good. Now THAT I could eat. But the canned stuff? No way.
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yardnut, I'm the same way. However, if someone will open it up, drain it off and mix some mustard or bbq sauce in it then I can eat it. Just can't smell it in 'canned' form.
Kay
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FINALLY. I FOUND SOMETHING GOING DOWNHILL AND LOST WITH IN ONES LIFE THAT CAN BE A GOOD THING!
LOSING WEIGHT....
A pound here and a pound there, month by month, always losing some and always going downhill.
Constantly losing excess weight without strain, exercise, effort nor pain & ever so slowly, can indeed be a good thing in ones personal life.....
LOSING CAN BE A POSITIVE GAIN!
LOSING WEIGHT....

A pound here and a pound there, month by month, always losing some and always going downhill.
Constantly losing excess weight without strain, exercise, effort nor pain & ever so slowly, can indeed be a good thing in ones personal life.....

LOSING CAN BE A POSITIVE GAIN!
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funny i should run into this forum now, i just lost 90 pounds over the last year and a half. i could lie tell you how hard it was but all in all it wasnt hard, i really didnt give up alot. i changed what i ate and cut back the amounts. went from reg pop to diet pop, from 3 creams and 3 sugars in my coffee to 1 cream and sweet and low, from reg milk to fat free etc. i try to keep my daily calorie intake to 1500 or less and i walk about 10 miles a week, very easy. my blood press dropped from 180 over 110 to 117 over 71 and iam no longer borderline diabedic. i dropped from a dbl x shirt and 44 waist pants to a med. shirt and 33 waist pants. that was the worst part buying new clothes but i have kept it off now for 5 months. another good part is my wife joined me, and went from 148 to 109 and from a size 12 to a size 4. hubba hubba hubba, chasing her should be enuff to keep me thin now haha. good luck all with your diets, although i like to call it a lifestyle change. diet sounds like it will come to an end, and to keep the weight off it cant end.
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Alright, I'll admit it (but only since you tied me down...)
I didnt read 100% of the posts. I skipped two. Sorry
Anywho - I wanted to give my 2 cents as well (since I remember a time not too long ago that I 'worked' here)
You, Tom, are correct in every way. (<---forum god)
Your body shuts down..lowers your metabolism in a effort to 'survive', to make it thru the day - it goes into starvation mode. You have to eat! The body cant function without fuel - much as your car refuses to ignite those last few drops of gasoline (cause if it did, it would run dry and hurt the itself..)
And PLEASE remember - the more you have to lose, the faster it will come off! Dont be upset and frustrated because you seem to have 'plateaued' right away. If you weigh 150 and your ideal weight is 135 (at 5'1"), it's going to take longer and more training than if you weigh 180 and need to be at 135 (at 5'1"). A plateau doesnt mean you cant lose any more weight, it means you're close to your own body's ideal weight, and your your newfound muscles are starting to weigh in (muscle weighs more than fat)
Not everyone should be 5'5" and 130. What does your family look like? That's going to be a dead on indicator everytime. Yes, it IS possible to be thinner than your auntie or counsin Sue, but you're going to have to make some rela life changes. If your body says 150 is ideal, expect to fight with it to get lower!
And one more thing (cent number three)..
It IS a good idea to make breakfast #1. Biggest and most important, with smaller lunches and smaller still dinners.
Twelve? EAT. My love, I will hunt you down in your cabin and force feed you if needed. Stay healthy, cause you're important. We all need more people in this world as kind and loving as you are.
There, I offered more than 2 cents, but I had a lot to say!
I didnt read 100% of the posts. I skipped two. Sorry

Anywho - I wanted to give my 2 cents as well (since I remember a time not too long ago that I 'worked' here)
You, Tom, are correct in every way. (<---forum god)
Your body shuts down..lowers your metabolism in a effort to 'survive', to make it thru the day - it goes into starvation mode. You have to eat! The body cant function without fuel - much as your car refuses to ignite those last few drops of gasoline (cause if it did, it would run dry and hurt the itself..)
And PLEASE remember - the more you have to lose, the faster it will come off! Dont be upset and frustrated because you seem to have 'plateaued' right away. If you weigh 150 and your ideal weight is 135 (at 5'1"), it's going to take longer and more training than if you weigh 180 and need to be at 135 (at 5'1"). A plateau doesnt mean you cant lose any more weight, it means you're close to your own body's ideal weight, and your your newfound muscles are starting to weigh in (muscle weighs more than fat)
Not everyone should be 5'5" and 130. What does your family look like? That's going to be a dead on indicator everytime. Yes, it IS possible to be thinner than your auntie or counsin Sue, but you're going to have to make some rela life changes. If your body says 150 is ideal, expect to fight with it to get lower!
And one more thing (cent number three)..
It IS a good idea to make breakfast #1. Biggest and most important, with smaller lunches and smaller still dinners.
Twelve? EAT. My love, I will hunt you down in your cabin and force feed you if needed. Stay healthy, cause you're important. We all need more people in this world as kind and loving as you are.
There, I offered more than 2 cents, but I had a lot to say!
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Checking Back In:
Hello Dieters.
It's been 2 months since I last checked into my own topic.
YIKES! Where has all that time gone?
And glad to report another 6 pounds has been lost....
Dieting to lose weight can be accomplished without too much effort or special diet plans, etc.
Minor lifestyle changes, some will power and determination does produce positive results.
Slowly and surely, maintaining a constance awareness of the type & amount of foods eaten, excess weight will be lost over time.
Regards & Good Luck Dieting
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Hello Dieters.
It's been 2 months since I last checked into my own topic.
YIKES! Where has all that time gone?
And glad to report another 6 pounds has been lost....

Dieting to lose weight can be accomplished without too much effort or special diet plans, etc.
Minor lifestyle changes, some will power and determination does produce positive results.
Slowly and surely, maintaining a constance awareness of the type & amount of foods eaten, excess weight will be lost over time.
Regards & Good Luck Dieting
Web Site Monitor & Multiple Topic Moderator.
PS
Welcome Back GwyniChaela...

