Early 1900's home front and rear door replacement
#1
02-10-03, 05:56 PM
Early 1900's home front and rear door replacement
I would like to replace the front and rear doors because there are numerous coats of paint and the hardware is probably over 75 yrs old. Maybe the glass knobs are collectibles.
They are 1 3/8" thick 32" wide and 6"8" tall with 6 panes of glass. I have a nice wrap of vinyl coated aluminum on the exterior faces of the doors and I don't really want to remove the complete unit unless I really have to. Everything is built with such large cuts of wood and I don't want to change the look of the trim around the doors. The side piece where the plunger goes is just as old and looks even worse. Can I update all this without changing the whole door units.
They are 1 3/8" thick 32" wide and 6"8" tall with 6 panes of glass. I have a nice wrap of vinyl coated aluminum on the exterior faces of the doors and I don't really want to remove the complete unit unless I really have to. Everything is built with such large cuts of wood and I don't want to change the look of the trim around the doors. The side piece where the plunger goes is just as old and looks even worse. Can I update all this without changing the whole door units.
#2
02-10-03, 06:25 PM
Well, you're going to have to remove the outside aluminum wrap, but you should be able to keep the "wide" trim look and have it re-wrapped after you install the door.
Sounds like you have a fairly standard door size, which from that age house, is odd in and of itself....
I'd remove the inside casing trim to check to see if a modern prehung door will go back in the rough opening you can see with the trim removed......assuming that will work, I'd then take the old door(s) off the hinges, then take the jambs, sill and header pc out, separating them from the wide trim on the outside, leaving it in place. Once that is gone, pull the nails thru the wide trim from the backside where they used to go into the jambs,etc.
I'd buy a prehung door unit, and remove the modern "brickmould" from the outside ( or order a prehung door w/o the moulding in the first place), then install it up to the door unit up to the wide trim from the inside, and run new nails thru the trim into the jamb edges, and otherwise secure the door as normal. You'll probably also have to "furr" the jambs out a 1/2" or so in the inside ( or you could order custom sized jambs for the wall thickness) since they used ACTUAL 2x4s in old house, plus the lath/plaster combo is often thicker than today's drywall, so instead of a standard 4 9/16 jamb, you may need 5 -5 1/2" of jamb to come flush to your inside wall. That done, continue by reinstalling the inside casing and your lockset and you are in business.
Sounds like you have a fairly standard door size, which from that age house, is odd in and of itself....
I'd remove the inside casing trim to check to see if a modern prehung door will go back in the rough opening you can see with the trim removed......assuming that will work, I'd then take the old door(s) off the hinges, then take the jambs, sill and header pc out, separating them from the wide trim on the outside, leaving it in place. Once that is gone, pull the nails thru the wide trim from the backside where they used to go into the jambs,etc.
I'd buy a prehung door unit, and remove the modern "brickmould" from the outside ( or order a prehung door w/o the moulding in the first place), then install it up to the door unit up to the wide trim from the inside, and run new nails thru the trim into the jamb edges, and otherwise secure the door as normal. You'll probably also have to "furr" the jambs out a 1/2" or so in the inside ( or you could order custom sized jambs for the wall thickness) since they used ACTUAL 2x4s in old house, plus the lath/plaster combo is often thicker than today's drywall, so instead of a standard 4 9/16 jamb, you may need 5 -5 1/2" of jamb to come flush to your inside wall. That done, continue by reinstalling the inside casing and your lockset and you are in business.
