outswing entry door
#1
11-11-06, 06:58 AM
outswing entry door
The entry door from my garage into my kitchen is an inswing door. It's a real pain in the neck. There is a bathroom right next to it and if someone is entering the house when another person is coming out of the bathroom there is always a smash. I need to make this an outswing door. The door is steel and made by stanley. I would just flip it around but it has to swing out to the left and the way it is now it will swing to the right. I was thinking I could scrap the jamb but still use the door. I would make a new jamb out of some kind of hardwood and get good security hinges. I have never done this type of work to a door. I usually put doors in as a whole with the jambs. Is the work involved in this not worth the effort? Would it be easier just to buy a new door system? thanks
#2
11-11-06, 07:06 AM
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Turn it all around
Since you have experience in installing prehung doors, investigate the possibility of simply turning the whole jamb around, then change out to security hinges. Since it's a steel Stanley door, it's likely to have been pre-hung to begin with.
Begin by removing your door, then pulling the casing off both sides. Using a "Sawzall" cut all nails and pull the jamb. Clean up all the nails and scraps of shims. Then reverse the process around the other way.
And don't feel too insecure if you make the change before you buy the security hinges. Ever try to pull out a locked soor from the butt hinge side? Not easy.
Good luck,
Don Spencer
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Begin by removing your door, then pulling the casing off both sides. Using a "Sawzall" cut all nails and pull the jamb. Clean up all the nails and scraps of shims. Then reverse the process around the other way.
And don't feel too insecure if you make the change before you buy the security hinges. Ever try to pull out a locked soor from the butt hinge side? Not easy.
Good luck,
Don Spencer
Get "xxxxxxxxx," the book that tells you how to fix any household door problem, at www.xxxxxxxxxxxx.com
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Last edited by Annette; 11-13-06 at 12:45 PM.
#3
11-11-06, 07:31 AM
Thanks but like I mentioned flipping the door around isn't an option because it would swing to the right and I need to go left. That was my first idea and that would have been great if thats all I had to do.
#4
11-11-06, 04:39 PM
A new left hand reverse door & frame is the answer.
If the door has a handed hinge prep you have the same problem as with the jamb. If the hinges are welded or staked the door isn't worth much. If the hinge prep is a thru "universal prep" the problem becomes finding and purchasing hinges that work. This is a branded door, so don't expect a wide variety of sources or that the manufacturer is interested in saving you money.
If the door has a handed hinge prep you have the same problem as with the jamb. If the hinges are welded or staked the door isn't worth much. If the hinge prep is a thru "universal prep" the problem becomes finding and purchasing hinges that work. This is a branded door, so don't expect a wide variety of sources or that the manufacturer is interested in saving you money.
#5
11-11-06, 05:06 PM
security hinges
At first it didnt hit me but then it came to me. I bought a home and went around like reworking the doors. Had one swing out and a pin like in each hinge. so if you pulled the pins out of the hinge the door still did not come out. They had drilled a hole in the hings then drove a 16/p nail in the frame so it stucked out about 1/2" cut the head off. Then drilled a little bigger hole in the other side of the hinge on the door. This way the door would close and slid over the nail there. Hey why not.
ED
At first it didnt hit me but then it came to me. I bought a home and went around like reworking the doors. Had one swing out and a pin like in each hinge. so if you pulled the pins out of the hinge the door still did not come out. They had drilled a hole in the hings then drove a 16/p nail in the frame so it stucked out about 1/2" cut the head off. Then drilled a little bigger hole in the other side of the hinge on the door. This way the door would close and slid over the nail there. Hey why not.
ED
#6
11-12-06, 09:46 AM
thanks all. I went to pick up the hardware I'll need today like security stud hinges and latch guard. Just for added security I figured I'd get a set of hinge bolts but no stores carry these. The only sites I found them on were in the UK. I know somebody has got to have these because they were on the basement door of an apartment I lived in years ago. The only reason I remember this is because one was misaligned and would snap real loud whenever you shut the door. Let me know if anyone knows what stores might carry these. thanks
#7
11-12-06, 06:02 PM
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I'm a little lost by the varying advice given in this thread. So I'll add my thoughts so as to add to the confusion.
I would think that you can't just turn the door around, since the interior side of the door would not be waterproof if it were reversed. So I think I agree with 2000 that a new jamb and door would be the best solution. I suppose you could remove, turn around, get different hinges, but all that work might be for nothing if it leaks after the first wind-driven rain.
I would think that you can't just turn the door around, since the interior side of the door would not be waterproof if it were reversed. So I think I agree with 2000 that a new jamb and door would be the best solution. I suppose you could remove, turn around, get different hinges, but all that work might be for nothing if it leaks after the first wind-driven rain.
