Vinyl Trim, Protecto Wrap, Vinyl Windows
#1
10-25-08, 10:07 AM
Vinyl Trim, Protecto Wrap, Vinyl Windows
Doing a new construction install of an all vinyl window dressed with Veranda vinyl trim (brick mold + vinyl sill). Want to seal the window with Protecto Wrap (BT25XL) Door and Window tape.
MSDS and product data sheets make no mention of this but the product wrapper does:
NOTE: should not be used in direct contact with flexible PVC board membranes and products, i.e. J-channel.
Should I sub something else for the Protecto Wrap? Due to the location of the window and maintenance considerations, vinyl trim is the optimum choice; all vinyl windows have already been delivered. FWIW house shingles are asbestos and not due to change in the foreseeable future. Thanks.
MSDS and product data sheets make no mention of this but the product wrapper does:
NOTE: should not be used in direct contact with flexible PVC board membranes and products, i.e. J-channel.
Should I sub something else for the Protecto Wrap? Due to the location of the window and maintenance considerations, vinyl trim is the optimum choice; all vinyl windows have already been delivered. FWIW house shingles are asbestos and not due to change in the foreseeable future. Thanks.
#2
10-25-08, 10:30 AM
Group Moderator
The warning refers to a specific kind of j-channel (plasticized / flexible) not ordinary j-channel or vinyl windows.
#3
10-25-08, 11:05 AM
Gotcha - ok, thanks.
I'm guessing I can cut this stuff to size - width - if needed. Manuf. data and sheets do not indicate that I can't.
So, should I try to shove this stuff (protecto) under the existing shingles as best I can? As you probably know, they are not replaceable nor easily repairable. I've got one (1) that I might be able to use if I had to.
Appreciate the input.
I'm guessing I can cut this stuff to size - width - if needed. Manuf. data and sheets do not indicate that I can't.
So, should I try to shove this stuff (protecto) under the existing shingles as best I can? As you probably know, they are not replaceable nor easily repairable. I've got one (1) that I might be able to use if I had to.
Appreciate the input.
#4
10-25-08, 02:16 PM
Group Moderator
Yes, the asbestos/slate cement shingles are a PITA. If there is an aluminum j-channel around the perimeter of your window trim that receives the siding, you won't have much luck tucking the protecto-wrap very far behind the siding, because of the nails you'll hit. And if you try and pry it loose at all, the siding will break. Keep in mind that if you have felt as your building paper that Protecto-wrap (or any other wrap for that matter) will not stick to felt because it's asphalt impregnated, and the two do not bond well.
When you flash a window and try to incorporate the flashing into the WRB (your housewrap) it's always much better to remove siding, use the full 4" or whatever your roll width is... but with that brittle siding being the way it is, you probably don't want to do that. I've been doing it for years and still break pieces occasionally. So in some cases, you just try to do the best you can without opening an entire new can of worms.
If there isn't one there already, stick a drip cap behind the WRB on top before installing your window. If you do end up needing more siding, GAF Weatherside fiber cement shingle siding is similar in size and style to some of the old 24" panels.
When you flash a window and try to incorporate the flashing into the WRB (your housewrap) it's always much better to remove siding, use the full 4" or whatever your roll width is... but with that brittle siding being the way it is, you probably don't want to do that. I've been doing it for years and still break pieces occasionally. So in some cases, you just try to do the best you can without opening an entire new can of worms.
If there isn't one there already, stick a drip cap behind the WRB on top before installing your window. If you do end up needing more siding, GAF Weatherside fiber cement shingle siding is similar in size and style to some of the old 24" panels.
#5
10-26-08, 06:17 AM
Thanks, X. I didn't know about the GAF products but I've checked out a couple of local sources online and this is great to know.
I'll post back as to how things went - in a separate post I indicated that someone told me that full frame new construction windows were not the way to go here. Probably due to the possibility to have to remove some of the shingles. I'd rather be water tight than quick and easy with the install - thanks for your insights.
I'll post back as to how things went - in a separate post I indicated that someone told me that full frame new construction windows were not the way to go here. Probably due to the possibility to have to remove some of the shingles. I'd rather be water tight than quick and easy with the install - thanks for your insights.
