threshold replacement problem
#1
10-28-08, 01:25 PM
threshold replacement problem
my simple threshold gasket replacement has turned out to be a much more complicated problem (of course!). seeing that i could not find the exact same gasket to replace the worn out one meant having to replace the whole threshold. The old threshold was a 4" wide aluminum low bumper type. The bumper itself is at the halfway mark. Unfortunately with all of the new thresholds the bumper is located 1" from the inside edge. This means that 1" of the old flooring is visible (we installed new hardwood last year and it does not go under the threshold).
Unfortunately I only have 3/4-inch clearance at the bottom of the door (which is metal). I tried a regular MD 36 In. Low Rug Aluminum Threshold W/vinyl Seal. It covers the old floor but there is not enough clearance on the hinge side; the vinyl bunches preventing the door from completely closing.
What's the best way to get around this?
Thanks
Unfortunately I only have 3/4-inch clearance at the bottom of the door (which is metal). I tried a regular MD 36 In. Low Rug Aluminum Threshold W/vinyl Seal. It covers the old floor but there is not enough clearance on the hinge side; the vinyl bunches preventing the door from completely closing.
What's the best way to get around this?
Thanks
#2
10-28-08, 03:47 PM
A pic would really help. It is difficult to visulize what you are describing, there are lots of old thresholds out there. Is this an older door, older that say, 15 yrs??? Big box stores have a variety of thresholds that should work for older doors. It is possible that the door bottom may need some trimming for newer thresholds to work.
#3
10-30-08, 02:48 PM
I can not find the albums link in the cp to add photos here so i posted 2 pictures at flickr:
Flickr: jimyyz's Photostream
you can see the new threshold in place. the problem is that there is not enough clearance with the rubber in the groove so the door won't fully close (the problem is only on the hinge side). I cannot trim the door because it is metal.
the other picture shows the old threshold beside a new lo-bumper threshold. you can see the point where the door stops over the threshold
Flickr: jimyyz's Photostream
you can see the new threshold in place. the problem is that there is not enough clearance with the rubber in the groove so the door won't fully close (the problem is only on the hinge side). I cannot trim the door because it is metal.
the other picture shows the old threshold beside a new lo-bumper threshold. you can see the point where the door stops over the threshold
#4
10-30-08, 10:19 PM
What's the best way to get around this?
You have poor sources, and lack necessary info! The vinyl seal was replaceable.
Four possible ways (1) an adjustable threshold with vinyl seal (typically sold for pre-hanging doors but adaptable to your situation). (2) purchase a threshold of lessor height (many are available). (3) change to a flat saddle threshold & install a door bottom with vinyl seal on the door. (4) Replace with duplicate. Measure the old threshold. Width(at base). Height(1) (centerline - bottom to flat face on top). Height(2) of the vinyl [flat metal face to top of arc]. Width (2) width of the vinyl. When you have those measurements in hand you can either source a replacement from online catalogs, or find a knowledgeable supplier.
You have poor sources, and lack necessary info! The vinyl seal was replaceable.
Four possible ways (1) an adjustable threshold with vinyl seal (typically sold for pre-hanging doors but adaptable to your situation). (2) purchase a threshold of lessor height (many are available). (3) change to a flat saddle threshold & install a door bottom with vinyl seal on the door. (4) Replace with duplicate. Measure the old threshold. Width(at base). Height(1) (centerline - bottom to flat face on top). Height(2) of the vinyl [flat metal face to top of arc]. Width (2) width of the vinyl. When you have those measurements in hand you can either source a replacement from online catalogs, or find a knowledgeable supplier.
#5
10-31-08, 08:01 AM
I could only find one replacement seal and the part that fits in the groove was a different size. I did check online as well. It would have saved me a lot of problems.
All of the adjustable thresholds I have found seem to have a minimum clearance of 1-1/8 inch. My max. clearance is only 5/8-in.
As for a replacement in the same size, the only ones's I have been able to find on-line are the same ones as at HD and Lowes.
Do you know of an online site that might have a better range of product?
Thanks very much
All of the adjustable thresholds I have found seem to have a minimum clearance of 1-1/8 inch. My max. clearance is only 5/8-in.
As for a replacement in the same size, the only ones's I have been able to find on-line are the same ones as at HD and Lowes.
Do you know of an online site that might have a better range of product?
Thanks very much
#6
10-31-08, 11:34 AM
Go to a REAL hardware store with knowledgeable saleshelp.I've worked for Ace hardwares and know that they carry and/or stock in the warehouse system many many varieties of thresholds.
HD and Lowes will stock only the best selling items and don't have anyone to help you.
If an Ace store,and I believe any hardware store that is part of a national chain,doesn't stock what you need it can easily be ordered by computer on the spot and be at the store within a few days.You don't have to keep it if it isn't what you want.Ace stores get two deliveries a week and the ordered item will be on the next order they receive.
HD and Lowes will stock only the best selling items and don't have anyone to help you.
If an Ace store,and I believe any hardware store that is part of a national chain,doesn't stock what you need it can easily be ordered by computer on the spot and be at the store within a few days.You don't have to keep it if it isn't what you want.Ace stores get two deliveries a week and the ordered item will be on the next order they receive.
#7
10-31-08, 12:18 PM
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There may or may not be someone at a Lowes or HD that could help, all depends on the store...but they should have a catalog hanging right on the aisle. If you can't find it locally, or you don't have a neighborhood hardware store, Lowes or HD can also order it.
M-D makes many diff typs of thresholds. Try looking here...
M-D: Low Bumper Threshold - 3/4"
I had an extension similar to what you have in your pic that was added (badly) to my front door to seal to a security door. I'd never seen one like it and I'm not sure where it came from, but it was cheap cheap cheap. No support, thin metal... Anyway many options out there.
BTW any indication of the maker of your door? I'm sorta perplexed why you would have what appears to be a bumper sill (normally on an outswing door) on what appears to be an inswing.
M-D makes many diff typs of thresholds. Try looking here...
M-D: Low Bumper Threshold - 3/4"
I had an extension similar to what you have in your pic that was added (badly) to my front door to seal to a security door. I'd never seen one like it and I'm not sure where it came from, but it was cheap cheap cheap. No support, thin metal... Anyway many options out there.
BTW any indication of the maker of your door? I'm sorta perplexed why you would have what appears to be a bumper sill (normally on an outswing door) on what appears to be an inswing.
#8
11-01-08, 08:01 AM
Thanks spadavid, I will check out Ace. Gunguy, thanks for letting me know about the catalogues. I've seen them in other parts of the store. Didn't know they had them for thresholds as well.
That MD Low Bumper Threshold - 3/4" is perfect except the bumper ridge is not in the same spot as the old one and when the threshold is placed to align with where the door stops it leaves 1" the old floor visible.
See, I can't even change a light bulb without it becoming a major undertaking
That MD Low Bumper Threshold - 3/4" is perfect except the bumper ridge is not in the same spot as the old one and when the threshold is placed to align with where the door stops it leaves 1" the old floor visible.
See, I can't even change a light bulb without it becoming a major undertaking
