American Craftsmen Sliding Door


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Old 02-28-09, 06:53 PM
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American Craftsmen Sliding Door

I am looking at purchasing a new sliding patio door for my home. Home Depot has a door made by American Craftmen for $300. The salesmen who has been helping me for years says that it is a good door for the price. However, although I don't have a ton of money for this project, I don't want to put a piece of junk in.

I believe the model is the 5500, but I am not positive.

Has anyone had any experience with this model or this company?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Old 02-28-09, 10:04 PM
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American Crapsman. Oh sorry about this misspelling. I've put in a few, not impressed all that much, but as your salesman said..."for the price....". What do you expect for $300.00? I will say I did not get a call back from the customers with those doors, so I guess they must not have any problems. I really like the Andersen PSGD. But then you can easily triple that price, by the time you get your hardware, and screen.
 
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Old 03-01-09, 06:49 AM
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The biggest problem with those stock doors is they don't have LoE I don't think. They did have lifetime warranty on parts, which was a plus. It will need some in a few years.
A/C is now owned by Andersen, so they should be around for a while.

Weak points...

Spring in latch mechanism is prone to wear, will cause it to fail, normally in open position. Simple replacement after parts are received. Can be repaired by bending a coil and reattaching spring when you understand how it works. Just bad design.

Sill..Used to be aluminum with a stainless rail cap. Last one I saw was vinyl with SS cap. Not as rigid, fins prone to warping.

Sill cap (used behind moving panel) was also changed to vinyl from aluminum. Prone to warping in direct sunlight. Also prone to damage and distortion from being stepped on.

Rollers are cheap metal, will wear and leave particles on track if not properly maintained.

Any removal of moving panel requires removal of fixed panel. If fixed panel is sealed into frame, this can be almost impossible.

Handle is weak pot metal.

Uses brush fin weatherstripping. If not installed perfectly, prone to wear and tearing. Its adhesive backed IIRC, so kinda difficult to remove and replace.

Design allows air leakage at meeting rail of doors. Needs to be carefully sealed with silicone (not mentioned in instructions).

Its a $300 door, you gets what you pay for.

I agree, if you can find a stocking dealer, the Andersen Permashield is well worth the extra expense. They are sized a bit smaller (retrofit design) but can easily be trimmed out and look nice. No comparison to the A/C door.
 
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Old 03-01-09, 08:14 AM
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Thanks.

I am only planning to live in the house about three more years, so I didn't want to spend too much.

The door is actually $280, with an extra $20 for LoE glass and another $20 for the screen.

Since I am moving in a few years, I definitely do not want to go top of the line, but if the door is that bad, I would upgrade.
 
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Old 03-01-09, 08:29 AM
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Depending on where you are located and if it is stocked...an Andersen Permashield is around $675+tax, handle, and screen. Call it about $800. I'm using HD pricing off the website.

If you can find a lumberyard/building supply that stocks them it may be a bit cheaper.

I'd seriously consider it money well spent. In 3 yrs when someone comes to view the house, the Andersen will still be looking good and working smoothly. The A/C model will still be looking cheap and dragging and sticking.

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Old 03-01-09, 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I am going to investigate the Andersen Permashield. I am in Bucks County PA, which is Northeast, Philly, so I should be able to find plenty of suppliers.
 
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Don't think that the PermaShield is top of the line, it is not... You could easily drop $2000 or more for "top of the line". Check out Marvin Ultimate series or even PeachTree Fiberglass doors. Or actually don't because the are pricey. But Really nice.
 
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Old 03-02-09, 04:31 PM
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No one ever said the 200 series Andersen (Permashield) was top of the line..just a much better mid priced alternative to the A/C stuff.

Not argueing, just clarifying.
 
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Originally Posted by dbrodsky

Since I am moving in a few years, I definitely do not want to go top of the line, but if the door is that bad, I would upgrade.
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