Finger pull on hollow core door
#1
10-12-09, 07:01 AM
Finger pull on hollow core door
Is it possible to install a flush mount finger full on a hollow core door? I would think maybe not. I would prefer something flush mount as it is for a sliding bypass door.
How wide typically is the solid edge around the sides of the door? I know it is usually a couple inches at the bottom.
How wide typically is the solid edge around the sides of the door? I know it is usually a couple inches at the bottom.
#2
10-12-09, 07:10 AM
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About 1-1 1/4" on the sides...I've seen it thinner on some.
And If you mean the round button type pulls...sure no problem.
And If you mean the round button type pulls...sure no problem.
#3
10-12-09, 07:40 AM
Yes the round pulls that are flush with the door surface. How exactly do you go about doing this? It seems as if on a solid door you drill a hole and tap in the pull. Oftentimes there are brads on the pull which hold it in place. No problem for a solid door, but what about a hollow door?
How would you approach this? I guess I don't see how it would be done. The round pulls are typically either 3/4" or 2 1/8" diameter. I would prefer to use the larger size. How would I drill a 2" diamter hole in the veneer without splintering it?
Thanks in advance.
How would you approach this? I guess I don't see how it would be done. The round pulls are typically either 3/4" or 2 1/8" diameter. I would prefer to use the larger size. How would I drill a 2" diamter hole in the veneer without splintering it?
Thanks in advance.
#4
10-12-09, 08:22 AM
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Cover the area with masking tape or as I learned here or on one of the DIY shows...after you carefully drill the pilot hole, run the hole saw in reverse. It should cut just fine through the thin door skin. You could also mask AND run in reverse.
The pulls have a small lip that will cover the very edge, and you can put a small bead of clear silicone caulk under the lip.
You should be fine....
The pulls have a small lip that will cover the very edge, and you can put a small bead of clear silicone caulk under the lip.
You should be fine....
#6
10-12-09, 09:33 AM
Don't the door slabs have extra wood where the door knob would go? I'm not sure how you tell which side is which but I've painted 100's of bi pass closet doors and some would have nothing but air behind the pulls but many would have wood. I always assumed it was the difference between good carpenters and not so good ones...... or are not all slab doors the same?
btw - if your not done painting the door, wait until the painting is done before you glue the pulls in place
btw - if your not done painting the door, wait until the painting is done before you glue the pulls in place
#7
10-12-09, 10:06 AM
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IIRC flat wood hollow core interior doors normally don't have lock blocks because they use a corrogated filler thoughout. That provides enough strength to prevent compression around a normal doorknob, esp since its so close to the edge.
Moulded panel doors DO have a piece or particle board at the normal handle height of 36". Basic moulded doors just have a "web" spaced thoughout between the panels but its not continuous.
I'm glad you brought it up though... I may be wrong or things may have changed and it depends on the door. Though once you have a hole cut deep enough it wouldn't be that big a deal to chisel out the waste.
I went to the JeldWen site and checked their PDF files on design and engineering of hollow core doors and can't find any mention of any blocking.
Moulded panel doors DO have a piece or particle board at the normal handle height of 36". Basic moulded doors just have a "web" spaced thoughout between the panels but its not continuous.
I'm glad you brought it up though... I may be wrong or things may have changed and it depends on the door. Though once you have a hole cut deep enough it wouldn't be that big a deal to chisel out the waste.
I went to the JeldWen site and checked their PDF files on design and engineering of hollow core doors and can't find any mention of any blocking.
#8
10-12-09, 10:27 AM
The bi-pass doors I was referring to where either luan or slick masonite with a few birch in the mix somewhere...... but that goes back a long time, I can't remember the last time I painted a house with bi pass closet doors.
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10-12-09, 04:56 PM
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Hi, Hollow core doors have blocks inside for installation of a lockset. Measure 36" from the floor then over 2 3/8". Mark the spot on the inside of the door. Drive a small finish nail on the mark inside of door you should feel the block. Pull the nail and drill a pilot hole at the mark through the door. Using a 2 1/8 hole saw cut half way trough the door then finish the cut from the other side. Install the finger pull on the front. The hole makes it easier to close or open the door from the inside.
Good Luck Woodbutcher
Good Luck Woodbutcher
#11
10-14-09, 10:48 AM
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Had to come back and apoligize. Took one of my handles off (flat birch doors) and sure enough, particle board lock block. You'd think after handling literally thousands of these, I would have remembered. Ahh well, it was a few years back.
@marksr if you happen to read this. No front and back on the flat ones. They are marked top and bottom and have blocks on both sides, so a non-issue. Not a problem with paneled doors as long as they are oriented correctly. Had a return of about 6 paneled doors once. The guy had drilled them all 36" from the top, not the bottom. Returns clerk didn't know better, so straight to the dumpster they went.
@marksr if you happen to read this. No front and back on the flat ones. They are marked top and bottom and have blocks on both sides, so a non-issue. Not a problem with paneled doors as long as they are oriented correctly. Had a return of about 6 paneled doors once. The guy had drilled them all 36" from the top, not the bottom. Returns clerk didn't know better, so straight to the dumpster they went.
