safety bars for screens (kids room)


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Old 01-03-10, 02:57 PM
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safety bars for screens (kids room)

I have two fairly large (typical builder grade) windows in one of my kids room which is approx. 25' above grade. I am a little concerned about the risk of falling, especially in the summer with the screens as they have very little structural support.

Are there any safety bar products or anything I can install to provide a level of safety when the screens are installed?

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Old 01-03-10, 03:26 PM
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Do a Google search for "child safety bars"
 
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Old 01-03-10, 05:24 PM
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Tolyn,

Guess I should have been a bit more clear (thanks for the response). I had found a number of products on the internet though I have a poor track records with products direct from the net with little background. I was hoping to get some feedback from someone who as installed a similar product and if they would recommend it or not. Lessons learned..

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Old 01-04-10, 04:56 AM
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When I was in business I used these child guards. They are made of aluminum so no worry about rusting. I don't know if they will sell to you but may give you the name of a dealer near you. Child Protection Window Gurard
 
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Old 01-04-10, 08:25 AM
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There a fire and the child hides from the fire. The rooms door is blocked by fire. Good Samaritans and you can't get in to rescue the children and the responding fire fighters are delayed getting in by the bars. Another tragedy for the 10 o'clock news.
 
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Old 01-04-10, 08:59 AM
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In the event of a fire, the safety bars can be kicked out and the fireman can surely break them out. They are only screwed into the sides of the window are are meant to keep children from falling out of windows.
 
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Old 01-04-10, 11:09 AM
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I haven't researched any products like the ones discussed. Please keep in mind, though, that anything that hinders egress/ingress in a fire is potentially deadly. Seconds do count and people, especially kids, are panicked and often unable to think clearly in these situations and open the simplest release mechanisms.
 
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Better option would be to put a window stop so window can only be opened so far.
 
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Old 01-04-10, 12:03 PM
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Child safety bars are much different from security bars. I've seen some that mount inside the window track...sorta like a child gate..and can be removed as easily as opening a door or window.

The sash stop would be easiest and cheap...but may really limit ventilation depending on the window type.

Scott....are the windows double hung, single hung or what?
 
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the windows are double hung....

fire escape is an issue though most of the safety gates appear to be fairly easy to remove.

i'd like to keep the windows operational as the room gets really hot in the summer though I do not want to compromise safety (fire).

i'm hoping to add a level of safety against accidental falls.. the window is 25' up, fairly large and low to the ground and we have two very active toddlers in the room.

thanks for the help everyone... i really appreciate it.

Scott
 
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Old 01-10-10, 09:13 AM
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the windows are double hung....

fire escape is an issue though most of the safety gates appear to be fairly easy to remove.

Scott
This is from the website that I posted above: WARNING: DO NOT INSTALL CHILD GUARD ON FIRE ESCAPE OR EMERGENCY EXIT WINDOWS.
 
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i'd like to keep the windows operational as the room gets really hot in the summer
That is why they make air conditioners.
 
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Old 01-10-10, 09:29 AM
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Well..the easy thing..if its DH...is to raise the lower sash about4", then open the top sash as much as desired. Drill a hole though the side frame above the lower sash and use a small pin, like a blunted nail (or you can buy fancy ones) though a block of wood the correct size, to prevent further opening of the lower sash. Remove when closing the window if desired. Of course any adult could easily remove and open the window from inside or out, but it should be high enough to keep it out of the kids reach....paint the block and pin a bright color for easy recognition.

If these are aluminum windows..they also make clamp on metal widgets that use a thumbscrew and will do the same thing.

Oh....and teach yer kids not to mess around near the window....lol.

People forget that the proper way to ventilate a room with a DH window is to open each sash equally.
 
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Old 01-10-10, 09:49 AM
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This is from the website that I posted above: WARNING: DO NOT INSTALL CHILD GUARD ON FIRE ESCAPE OR EMERGENCY EXIT WINDOWS.
well.. any window can be an "emergency exit" under certain circumstances. I'll run it by the local fire marshal and see what he says. I already checked with a buddy who was a part time fire man and he didn't see any issues with it. i'll let everyone know what the marshal says..

thanks again..
 
 

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