Cleanup of new window install / removal of old storm windows
#1
12-28-10, 12:00 PM
Cleanup of new window install / removal of old storm windows
Hi!
We're having new windows installed in our 1958 all-brick exterior / plaster-lathe interior walled home. There are currently storm windows (two sets of windows) in most window openings. I understand that the installer is going to remove both sets of windows and install the new ones in place of the old outer window. The old inner windows will be removed by cutting the caulk and perhaps removing a few screws that held them into the frame. Where plaster is broken or removed on the uninstall, the installer has told me they would repair or mud any holes (except small screwholes).
I'm concerned about two windows - one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom above the shower. When the previous owner remodeled the kitchen and bathroom, they tiled and silled the window opening inside the storm window right up to the aluminum windowframe. It looks good with the storm window installed, but I'm concerned that removing the storm window will either break attached tiles and sills, or if they remove it without them breaking, there will be grout left on the new exposed edges of tile and sill. I suppose I could just sand it off and clean it up.
Even if I can clean those edges, I'm still left with about two inches of old wall (whatever was underneath the tile and sill) that is not tiled and silled up to the new window. Any suggestions on how to make this new empty space look good?
Thanks!
We're having new windows installed in our 1958 all-brick exterior / plaster-lathe interior walled home. There are currently storm windows (two sets of windows) in most window openings. I understand that the installer is going to remove both sets of windows and install the new ones in place of the old outer window. The old inner windows will be removed by cutting the caulk and perhaps removing a few screws that held them into the frame. Where plaster is broken or removed on the uninstall, the installer has told me they would repair or mud any holes (except small screwholes).
I'm concerned about two windows - one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom above the shower. When the previous owner remodeled the kitchen and bathroom, they tiled and silled the window opening inside the storm window right up to the aluminum windowframe. It looks good with the storm window installed, but I'm concerned that removing the storm window will either break attached tiles and sills, or if they remove it without them breaking, there will be grout left on the new exposed edges of tile and sill. I suppose I could just sand it off and clean it up.
Even if I can clean those edges, I'm still left with about two inches of old wall (whatever was underneath the tile and sill) that is not tiled and silled up to the new window. Any suggestions on how to make this new empty space look good?
Thanks!
#2
12-28-10, 12:31 PM
Welcome to the forums! Just for clarification. The installer is installing "replacement" windows, right? If so, they will go in place of the inner window flush with the outside. There will no longer be any "storm" windows, so they will go away.
Now for clarification.....you didn't have storm windows installed on the inside, did you?
By your description of the bathroom and kitchen windows, that is what you have, and should never have been done. Can you post a couple of pictures of your windows as they are, now, inside and out on a site such as photobucket.com and copy/paste the IMG code to your reply post? That way we can see what you see.
Now for clarification.....you didn't have storm windows installed on the inside, did you?
By your description of the bathroom and kitchen windows, that is what you have, and should never have been done. Can you post a couple of pictures of your windows as they are, now, inside and out on a site such as photobucket.com and copy/paste the IMG code to your reply post? That way we can see what you see.
#3
12-28-10, 01:57 PM
Thanks chandler for responding so quickly.
What I know as storm windows are two separate sets of windows, one flush with the outside of the house, and one caulked (and perhaps screwed) into the window frame perhaps two inches inside the outer window set. So I can open one window and then I still have the other window set closed to the outside. This is fairly common practice for the '50s era in Utah. They rationalized that it was kind of like double-paned windows. But the aluminum frames obviously conduct too much cold air into the house, so that's why we're looking at replacement windows.
I will post a couple of photos when I get home this evening.
Thanks!
What I know as storm windows are two separate sets of windows, one flush with the outside of the house, and one caulked (and perhaps screwed) into the window frame perhaps two inches inside the outer window set. So I can open one window and then I still have the other window set closed to the outside. This is fairly common practice for the '50s era in Utah. They rationalized that it was kind of like double-paned windows. But the aluminum frames obviously conduct too much cold air into the house, so that's why we're looking at replacement windows.
I will post a couple of photos when I get home this evening.
Thanks!
#4
12-28-10, 06:24 PM
Here are some photos I took:
Kitchen 1
Kitchen 2
These two images obviously have the inner storm window removed. It wasn't there when we moved in, but I'd hate to leave it there after the replacement windows are installed. You can see the old busted backsplash over which the new tile was laid, and the plaster sill on which the new granite sill was laid. I suppose I could find a piece of granite to cover it, then grout it to the existing sill. Who could I contact to do that for me? What would you suggest on the inner walls of the window frame that will newly be showing once the inner storm frame is removed?
Bathroom 1
Bathroom 2
Yes, I know, no comments from the Peanut Gallery on the peeling paint on the tile. Any suggestions for shower-proof tile paint?
The sill will not be a problem here, as it was in the kitchen, because the ugly blue tile extends all the way to the outer window frame. But what would you suggest for the soon-to-be-exposed ugly inner walls between where the shower wall tile ends and the new replacement window frame begins?
Kitchen 1
Kitchen 2
These two images obviously have the inner storm window removed. It wasn't there when we moved in, but I'd hate to leave it there after the replacement windows are installed. You can see the old busted backsplash over which the new tile was laid, and the plaster sill on which the new granite sill was laid. I suppose I could find a piece of granite to cover it, then grout it to the existing sill. Who could I contact to do that for me? What would you suggest on the inner walls of the window frame that will newly be showing once the inner storm frame is removed?
Bathroom 1
Bathroom 2
Yes, I know, no comments from the Peanut Gallery on the peeling paint on the tile. Any suggestions for shower-proof tile paint?
The sill will not be a problem here, as it was in the kitchen, because the ugly blue tile extends all the way to the outer window frame. But what would you suggest for the soon-to-be-exposed ugly inner walls between where the shower wall tile ends and the new replacement window frame begins?
#5
12-29-10, 04:28 AM
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The new windows can be installed from the outside to butt up against the tile so that the look will remain the same. The exterior can be trimmed with wood and covered with aluminum.
