Replacing shower window


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Old 10-14-14, 08:49 AM
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Replacing shower window

Replacing rotted out shower window. Trying to figure out best window to go with. Will be doing this myself, havent done this before so not sure what all I will need. Not sure if this window was mounted in a standard fashion.
Any help and advice appreciated.
Currently looking at new construction windows from Kolbe, marlin, possibly jeld wen(too many bad reviews).
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I would install a vinyl window to help avoid problems with rotting in the future. Also check your local codes as the window may need to be tempered glass in the shower area. For me any glass in a shower or tub area below 60" above the floor of the shower or tub must be tempered.
 
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Old 10-14-14, 11:56 AM
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What type of siding do you have on the exterior of the house?

What type of shower wall treatment will be going against it inside the bathroom?

How low in the shower is the current window? and how wide?
 
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Vinyl siding, exterior of the window doesnt see any rain as its under a screened in porch.

Inside will be cement board and tile.

Window is about 45 inches from the floor.

Stud to stud the space is 38*38
 
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Old 10-14-14, 12:26 PM
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As long as you have vinyl siding, then you are OK to proceed with new construction windows. Get a window that has an integral j-channel for ease of installation of the vinyl siding. You also need to make sure that the current siding (which is already cut to fit your existing window) will work mathematically with the new window j-channel dimensions. If not, look into a window that has a wider j-channel to cover up if there is a shortage in materials from the old to new.

You may have to build some extension jambs or do some additional framing so that you have both a nailing surface and what transcribes into a tiling surface to dress out the window on the inside. You must properly slope and waterproof the ledge of the window to prevent similar issues with water infiltration.

Is this the only means of ventilation in the bathroom? Is there a ceiling fan?

The fact that it is on a screened porch doesn't change the way you should install it. Make it both water tight and weather tight. Let us know if you need assistance on the inside build for your shower as well. Complete rebuild of the shower and shower drain? or just a repair to the window area?
 
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Thanks for the input.

There is a ceiling fan.

We figured we would re-tile the bathroom, and floor, replace vanity, medicine cabinet, and remove the tub for a standing shower.

Not sure how the drain is yet, havent removed the tub yet.
Im sure I will need help on the inside too. I will probably have to replace a stud or two that have been rotting a little.
 
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Old 10-14-14, 12:47 PM
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Sounds like a project in your near future. Note that a stand up shower requires a 2" drain line, most tubs use 1 1/2" drain line. Additional modifications may be necessary. Is the house on a slab, crawl, or basement? Is the plumbing easily accessible?

How fancy are you going to get? Next month, I start a new bath remodel that has a curbless shower with a hidden trench style drain body built into the floor. All custom built from the ground up. (I do this for my livelihood in case you did not realize).

Do you even need the window??? Could you frame it in and finish off the screen porch with a glass mosaic decorative panel in place of what was the window area. Then you have less chance of a future water issue (you always find out after it is too late). Just a thought, I'm not a huge fan of windows in showers.
 
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Haha I could tell you do this for a living.

Not trying to get too fancy, just refresh since we had to tear into it.
I will look into the drain, the house has a crawl space, so the plumbing is accessible I would just rather not have to touch that.
Looking as simple shower pans, no tile ones.

Now I am debating just installing a small one foot sliding window at the top, should stay pretty dry since water wont be hitting it much and we still get some fresh air/sun in the bathroom.
Like you said shower windows are usually a pain, and not needed.

Something like this
Shop JELD-WEN V4500 Series Left-Operable Vinyl Double Pane Double Strength Sliding Window (Fits Rough Opening: 36-in x 12-in; Actual: 35.5-in x 11.5-in) at Lowes.com
 
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Last one I did, I changed out from a slider to an awning window. That is one that the whole window tilts out but opens from the bottom as opposed to the side. Allows for a crack of the window without full view. But also allows you to open the whole window as opposed to only 1/2 the area as open and the other 1/2 stationary. You can get them in the approx. size you are looking for.

If you reduce the window, the challenge is what to do outside where there is not any siding. Shoot us a pic from on the porch and the community will help with ideas. You can also send some wider shots of the project inside as well.

Here is some excellent reading on the steps to building a custom shower pan. They make pre-made curbs so you can eliminate the the toughest part of the demo. But knowing how to do it should ease the mind in deciding how to proceed. How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.
 
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Some more pics
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I cant imagine that siding being hard to find at stores, so if I made it a smaller window, couldnt I just extend the siding?

Thanks again!
 
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Old 10-14-14, 05:02 PM
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I agree with the shortned window route. That shower/window is just asking for issues. I would investigate your siding match prior to making any progress. Looks simple in theory, but actually finding a match may be more difficult than you think.
 
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I agree with Czizzi, that finding siding will be harder than you think. Generally you end up robbing siding from some inconspicuous location on the house to get some siding that matches and then replace it with the stuff that's "one off".

I dunno what size you're going to end up with (compared to what's there now) but you could also trim the exterior of the window to fill in the difference. impossible to say how that would work at this point.

I know a window in the shower isn't ideal but all it takes is an extra piece of shower curtain to protect it. I would put cement board and tile jambs on it and then caulk the joint where they meet... maybe slope the tile on bottom in case it gets wet or cobdensates in winter months.
 
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Don't forget that you will need tempered glass in whatever window you choose if you decide to keep the window. I have a extensive metal shop so I make the bath side trim out of stainless steel which gets caulked to the window frame and to the tile. You can have a fab or weld shop make something simple but the price can very wildly depending on the shop and your ability to give them a good sketch/drawing and say "make this". If you need someone to come measure and figure out how to make the trim the price will likely skyrocket.

But, in my rental properties I almost always remove the window altogether. Inside the shower it will be easy for you go go over the window opening. On the outside it's usually very difficult to make it so the window never existed. I usually trim out the opening and fill the field with vinyl siding, soffit or some other material that will look good. Yes, there will be the trimming that a window was there but if it's done properly and professional looking it's not that bad.
 
 

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