Door Frame Window Seals
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02-21-15, 07:51 AM
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Door Frame Window Seals
How difficult is this to fix? Any links to directions?
I need to re-seal the windows within the frame.
I need to re-seal the windows within the frame.
#2
02-21-15, 08:21 AM
Welcome to the forums Ricky!
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking
is it the door weatherstripping that needs to be replaced or are you getting a draft around the side lites? Redoing the caulking is about all you can do with the sidelites.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking
is it the door weatherstripping that needs to be replaced or are you getting a draft around the side lites? Redoing the caulking is about all you can do with the sidelites.
#3
02-21-15, 08:29 AM
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Is the issue with the seal between the two panes of glass or can you physically touch the seal from the inside?
#4
02-21-15, 10:09 AM
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It's the rubber/neoprene spacer/seal between the glass in the upper pane of the sidelight. I have the exact same thing in a bathroom window in this rental I moved to.
No, you can't DIY this. The glass is all one insulated unit (IGU) and the way it's constructed is a royal pain to remove. There are little trim strips that have to be carefully pried out, then the adhesive sealant has to be cut away to get the glass out. Many times the trim pieces break or chip and have to be replaced.
A glass shop would probably be able to do it, but even for them it's not going to be an easy job. If you know the manufacturer, you might be able to buy just the IGU (and new trim strips if available) and have a glass shop swap it.
No, you can't DIY this. The glass is all one insulated unit (IGU) and the way it's constructed is a royal pain to remove. There are little trim strips that have to be carefully pried out, then the adhesive sealant has to be cut away to get the glass out. Many times the trim pieces break or chip and have to be replaced.
A glass shop would probably be able to do it, but even for them it's not going to be an easy job. If you know the manufacturer, you might be able to buy just the IGU (and new trim strips if available) and have a glass shop swap it.
#5
02-21-15, 11:54 AM
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In your first picture, you can see the seam where the exterior stops are nailed to the sidelight frame. These stops need to CAREFULLY be removed- which even for someone who has done it hundreds of times- is difficult to do without damaging them. A lot depends on the sealant used to seal them and whether or not the installer had the bright idea of using wood glue, plus how close to the corners they fastened the pieces is also an issue.
If you can get the stops off, and if you can remove the stops, you might be able to remove the IGU, at which time you could measure it's exact size. The thickness is critical.
Or, you can just call a glass shop or service, as was mentioned. They will take all the risk and responsibility for it.
If you can get the stops off, and if you can remove the stops, you might be able to remove the IGU, at which time you could measure it's exact size. The thickness is critical.
Or, you can just call a glass shop or service, as was mentioned. They will take all the risk and responsibility for it.
#6
02-21-15, 12:45 PM
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X...wouldn't the exterior stops just be part of the frame? Like they are on an exterior door? I'd think they would use the same parts for those bits. Maybe there are some interior stops that would be easier to remove? We don't have an overall interior pic though.
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02-21-15, 03:03 PM
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You would think... but that's not always the case... I believe the only stops are the ones pictured on the exterior. But interior pictures would help.
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02-22-15, 12:02 AM
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Howdy! Thank you all for the replies thus far!
It's for a coworker, so I had her send me the some pictures from the inside (theure not too good, so I'll try to go out in the next few days and get some pictures).
Also, she said she doesn't care if the current glass is fixed or replaced. If it's easier to replace than fix, then she wants to go that route. She also said she doesn't care if glass is even put back in, she just wants what's there now taken out and fixed/replaced.
She's been quoted between 2000-3500 by various people to fix it, so she asked me. I've done a few house repairs here and there, but not worked on any windows/doors, so I'm hoping for advice as to the level of difficulty/work this job requires. Also, what steps are required to remove/replace this glass (I've seen some potential ideas here depending on interior pictures).
If these interior pictures don't suffice, I'll go get some myself
It's for a coworker, so I had her send me the some pictures from the inside (theure not too good, so I'll try to go out in the next few days and get some pictures).
Also, she said she doesn't care if the current glass is fixed or replaced. If it's easier to replace than fix, then she wants to go that route. She also said she doesn't care if glass is even put back in, she just wants what's there now taken out and fixed/replaced.
She's been quoted between 2000-3500 by various people to fix it, so she asked me. I've done a few house repairs here and there, but not worked on any windows/doors, so I'm hoping for advice as to the level of difficulty/work this job requires. Also, what steps are required to remove/replace this glass (I've seen some potential ideas here depending on interior pictures).
If these interior pictures don't suffice, I'll go get some myself
#10
02-22-15, 06:28 AM
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Yeah, those pics don't really help too much. Need to see what the wood trim surrounding the glass looks like. As well as the wood around the whole panel where it sits in the frame. With it brighter outside and no flash, can't make out any details.
#11
02-22-15, 06:33 AM
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It kind of looks like there is a stop on the inside as well... the 3/4 round part. You would cut the paint with a utility knife (carefully scoring it where the stop meets the door frame) then try to tap a very thin putty knife down into the seam, and gently pry it away from the door frame. Once you get the stop off and ay nails removed, you should be able to measure the glass size and thickness... you then order the IGU from a glass shop, and when it comes in- about a week later in most cases, you will have to free the glass from the exterior stop in order to get it out.
