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05-06-17, 11:42 AM   #1  
Replacing very old garage side door

The side entry door to my garage is coming apart. I was going to try and repair it, but the rot is extremely bad, and it is clear that it has been patched in various ways before. So looks like I am replacing it.

It does have a wonky size--I think.... I did not want to remove the mold until I was sure that there was something available...but it looks like the opening is roughly 33 x 81, seems like that would fit a 30x80 door. (current size is 29x77); would that be a correct assumption?.

How easy would it be to adjust the opening if needed?

Any suggestions as to where to buy this type of door...certainly lots of options at Home Depot, Lowes etc. but are there other stores to consider? I guess I am thinking that buying a front door is too fancy for the garage, and I am just looking for the practical option. Any suggestions welcome.

Just to be clear, I have never done this type of work before, but I assume it is pretty straightforward (?)

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05-06-17, 12:54 PM   #2  
I was going to try and repair it
Good luck with that Yes, if your rough opening is 33x81 you can possibly squeak in a 30x80 door, although the normal rough opening for height is about 82". Pictures from inside would help us as well so we can see the framing. You will need a 2-6 x 6-8 RH outswing door unit. I would not have all the windows, but maybe a 9 lite or a single lite door. Go ahead and buy the entire prehung unit, remove all the 1x6 molding and start from scratch. We can help you with it as you go along.

 
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05-06-17, 01:28 PM   #3  
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Will start tearing the molding off.

Any suggestions as to where to start shopping...go to the big stores or is this too specific?

 
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05-06-17, 01:42 PM   #4  
Once you remove the trim and can tell us the actual size of the masonry opening (not a guess) we can better tell you if this will be a stock door or if it will need a custom size.

 
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05-06-17, 02:01 PM   #5  
Opening was 33x81, old frame was 32x80 (although more of a trapezoid shape)
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05-06-17, 02:18 PM   #6  
Yikes. I would say that you could fit a stock door in there, provided your stores stock 30" doors.

But you will need to clean up the top of that opening so your height is at LEAST 82". Do this with a grinder and 4 1/2" cup wheel. And while you are at it, try to clean up the sides and gain a little bit to try to make it 34" wide. A 32" door would be much better if you can make it fit with some grinding.

 
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05-07-17, 07:46 AM   #7  
Thanks for the help....now for a very uninformed question my apologies)..

Would a RH outswing door unit be the same as a LH inswing..if you turn it around....or are my brain 3D processing capabilities long gone?

Just asking because the RH outswing configuration seems a little more difficult to find.

 
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05-07-17, 07:51 AM   #8  
Outswing doors have a different thresold configuration than inswing. I would not substitute one for he other.

 
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05-07-17, 09:54 AM   #9  
Also the hinges are usually different on an out swing exterior door .... so the hinge pins can't just be removed to gain access.


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05-15-17, 06:37 PM   #10  
So it turns out that it is a little bit more difficult to find this door than anticipated. Found a few in one of the big stores for ~~$400, but not delivered for another month....does this sound about right or should I go a different route??

 
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05-15-17, 07:04 PM   #11  
If you have a menards nearby, you could go to Midwestmanufacturing dot Com and build your own door online, as a way to compare the price you got

 
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05-20-17, 12:17 PM   #12  
Thanks a bunch...that was super awesome. Better price and faster!!!!!

 
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