Just got another stove and blew it up already... wifey not happy! Please help!

I'll make this as short as possible. The stove is an electric...

Tappan - Model# MEF303PGWA

...while moving it into the van to bring it home one of the knobs broke off. Well, the metal arm the knob slides onto broke in half.

Since the control arm didn't look like it could be repaired I figured we could just replace the whole burner switch assembly. After getting it unscrewed I pulled out the panel that houses all 4 surface burner switches AND the oven switch.

Like a knucklehead I forgot I had plugged the darn thing back in and when I pulled the panel out one of the bare terminals touched the stove and... spark, spark, sizzle! It only sparked for a second but I knew something was blown. I unplugged it and started looking for fuses. NO FUSES - can't believe an ELECTRIC stove doesn't have a single fuse - wow!

I removed the back panel and could see the terminal block was fried. The terminal with the black wire had blown out of the block and charred that spot on the block badly. The end of the wall plug that connects to the black wire on the terminal block was burnt pretty good too but SEEMED to be still intact... well, it hadn't been severed from what I could see.

Since I didn't see any fuses that were blown and didn't see any severed wires so I put it all back together and just connected the black wire directly to the main outlet cord that goes into the wall. The only difference was that I bypassed the terminal block.

Once I got it all put back together and plugged her back in - NOTHING! None of the burners will work now! I double checked the voltages at the wall socket and at the terminal block connections and both spots are getting 119V but the burners don't get hot.

Is there something I have missed? I would love to find a fuse or something simple like that but from the look of the terminal block there probably aren't any fuses.

ANY help would be so greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

RTB

 

bump... any ideas? anyone?

btw... i tried the oven today and it doesn't work either!

thanks in advance for any help i can get.

rtb

 

RTB,

It's anyones guess what has fried.
Could be something simple like a wire burnt that you cannot see or as much as the switch internal components cooked.
There have to be fuses somewhere.

It's impossible to tell you where to look.
The answer lies in the schematic.
You need to know how to troubleshoot electrical by following the current path.

 

Wow!

Thanks a bunch.

Did I do something to upset someone? The last time I had a problem like this I got a lot of help... not sure why I'd get such a harsh response.

 

I didn't see any harsh responses. The recommendation to start with a schematic is the correct one. If you don't have one, go to the companies web site and look for the tech info on your model. If you have a multimeter you should be able to do some rudimentary troubleshooting to find out what's fried.

 

RTB,

Sorry I sounded harsh. That wasn't my intention.

The elemements are 220 volts and that is the voltage you need to be looking for.
Where exactly did you probe to get a reading of 119 volts?
At the terminal block in the range you should have 220 volts between the two hot reminals which will be either black or black and red.
There should also be a white wire.
Between white and either black or the black and red should be 120 volts.
You then need to follow the path with a schematic to see where the 220 volts ends.

 

Here's a response that's a little harsh: Step away from the stove. You obviously have no clue what you are doing. Call an installer or an electrician next time, and just be glad you haven't killed yourself.

 

my apologies m8 - i guess i took the "tough luck!" comment the wrong way. i didn't see any suggestions other than the "the answer lies in the schematic" and that coupled with me already being frustrated with this added to my misinterpretation i'm sure.

thanks again for your replies Greg and Wayne - it's appreciated.

i ended up going back over everything to see what i missed and when i double checked the voltages i was now getting 119v on one side and 31v on the other. a trip down to the breaker box did the trick.

to answer your last question Greg, i checked the voltages at both the outlet and the terminal block after i put everything back together last night before i posted this and i'm pretty sure they both read 119v. i measured between the middle and the two outside terminals and they both read 119v -- or so i thought?

i was pretty sure i had done all i could before i posted this that's why i was so frustrated. i should have just reset the breakers last night like i started to but only 2 of them are marked (we just moved in last month) and since "i thought" the voltages were right at the socket i didn't think it was necessary.

by the way i never did find a fuse believe it or not. anyways, thanks some more for your help with this - it's back up and running.

rtb