Help me choose a dishwasher
#1
03-21-19, 11:43 AM
Help me choose a dishwasher
I'm comparing Miele, Thermador, Bosch, and Samsung dishwasher. Samsung DW80M9960US has all or most of the features I want such as self clean, WiFi connection, and integration with SmartThings/Alexa. I'm not sure how much of the "smart" things I'm going to actually use. One thing I can see useful is perhaps the troubleshoot side of it on the app. Another thing is, self clean filtration system. What exactly is "self clean" versus manual? From a reliability standpoint, Bosch and the other two brands have better track record than Samsung but they lack the tech.
#2
03-21-19, 08:01 PM
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I do not offer help choosing brands.
I can tell you..... if you buy that Samsung..... GET the extended warranty.
Most of the machines found here are self cleaning. They grind up the food. They are a little noisier.
Many of the European machines like Miele and Bosch can have a filter you pull out clean.
I can tell you..... if you buy that Samsung..... GET the extended warranty.
Most of the machines found here are self cleaning. They grind up the food. They are a little noisier.
Many of the European machines like Miele and Bosch can have a filter you pull out clean.
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03-21-19, 09:03 PM
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I have a Bosch. Extremely quiet operation. Cleans very well. Filter on the bottom is very easy to clean. I run mine daily with the number of dishes we go through and I clean it once a month. Takes 5 minutes. DO NOT use the finish brand detergent tabs. They leave a terrible orange, nasty residue in the filter. Many people have the same issue even though Bosch recommends it. Use Cascade complete tabs. Work great and zero residue on the filter.
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03-21-19, 09:07 PM
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#5
03-22-19, 04:20 AM
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I'll offer my input. Make sure it's a stainless steel interior. Plastic interior will eventually stain and crack. Make sure you can skip heat dry. With respect to Slyguy, I looked at the Bosch brands and would not buy that brand. Don't need to clean another filter and another area that needs service. Other features about Bosch were not to my wife's liking. Bosch is a European company and their products are designed to fit the European life style, not the American. Even though I have a Kitchen Aid that has a intermittent leak that can't be fixed, wife prefers it to a new unit or will be willing to purchase another K-A or a Whirlpool.
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03-22-19, 04:32 AM
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We have a Maytag that wifey is very happy with. Bought it after the house daughter bought had one that she really liked.
I can echo Norm's comment on stainless steel interior.
I can echo Norm's comment on stainless steel interior.
#7
03-22-19, 05:41 AM
Thanks for your insights.
Based on ConsumerReports:
Samsung DW80M9960US -- 62 overall score
Bosch SHEM78WH5N -- 69 overall score
Whirlpool WDT970SAHZ -- 71 overall score
Based on ConsumerReports:
Samsung DW80M9960US -- 62 overall score
Bosch SHEM78WH5N -- 69 overall score
Whirlpool WDT970SAHZ -- 71 overall score
#8
03-22-19, 05:59 AM
Based on Consumer Report's predicted reliability and owner satisfaction, Bosch has been among the top. So, I've decided to go with Bosch. Miele and Thermador are also among the top but their prices are just ridiculously expensive for a dishwasher.
Thanks for your input, much appreciated.
Thanks for your input, much appreciated.
#9
03-22-19, 06:57 AM
I almost bought a Bosch based on Consumer Reports' info, but when I looked at them in the store they felt cheap inside. I went with a KitchenAid and it's been good so far (about 2 years.) It felt much more solid.
I got one with the 3rd rack and love that feature - great for flat items and frees up a lot of space on the other 2 racks. I also made sure that the middle rack can be adjusted up or down.
I got one with the 3rd rack and love that feature - great for flat items and frees up a lot of space on the other 2 racks. I also made sure that the middle rack can be adjusted up or down.
#10
03-22-19, 10:38 AM
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Bought a Bosch a couple of years ago and am very satisfied with it. It is extremely quiet, uses little water and does a great job cleaning.
Comments about being designed for European tastes are valid as the arrangement of tines in the racks can make loading tricky.
I installed it as a DIY and had an electrical issue in the first month. It required 2 service calls to correct (covered by warranty).
The dishwasher would not start and displayed a code that was not in the manual. I eventually found an explanation that the service tech did not have in his manual but did confirm with the factory. It had to do with an internal electrical issue.
Although the service tech checked the ground wire connection at the terminal box in his first visit, he found it was loose in his second visit. Once that was tightened all worked well.
We also use Cascade pods and have no issues with filter crud.
Comments about being designed for European tastes are valid as the arrangement of tines in the racks can make loading tricky.
I installed it as a DIY and had an electrical issue in the first month. It required 2 service calls to correct (covered by warranty).
The dishwasher would not start and displayed a code that was not in the manual. I eventually found an explanation that the service tech did not have in his manual but did confirm with the factory. It had to do with an internal electrical issue.
Although the service tech checked the ground wire connection at the terminal box in his first visit, he found it was loose in his second visit. Once that was tightened all worked well.
We also use Cascade pods and have no issues with filter crud.
