i have been having problems with intruders on my place. be them
kids or criminals or both? but anyway i installed 2 motion sensing
flood light fixtures.

1 is within 10' of the subpanel 100amp the other is 100' out on a pole. now for the problem maybe not a big deal but i wanted to ask.

i only have 1 15 amp breaker left for the 2 fixtures. the panel is full and i cant remove any doubles to make it 2 singles. can i put the 2 #10 wires on the 1 breaker?? and then just fasten the neutrals to the bar?

the way the wires come in make it hard to run them to a junction box.
and tie together and make single run to panel.im not any kind of electrician but i have not killed myself or burned my place down so far and i rather sit in the dark than pay these guys around here.

here ill show you why i now do my own things. i called a electrician from the yellow pages to wire my pump. ok no problem
right? well helper digs and he installs and it works and they leave
after raping my wallet. well now first rain comes and it looks like a welder on top of the ground and then no water. so i find he ran romex underground and not UF. when i dug it up. at least when i reburied the burial wire i knew where to attach them thank for your time and this forum. sincerely john

 

Sorry to hear about your problem, but don't judge all the electricians in your area by the actions of one, or even a few.
There are breakers that are listed as being able to have multiple wires installed in them. Check the manufacture of your panel and the type of breaker. Then you can find out if it is possible.

 

If you can route the cables from the outlets to the service-panel,it's perplexing why they can't terminate in a juction box near or at the panel.Is there any reason they can't be connected to existing outlets near the new liting outlets?

 

thanks for the quick reply gard this place is just like an 800 help line the breaker in the generic 100 amp panel is a single pole 15 amp stab loc type is about all i can tell you right now. how do i distinguish the breaker types ie:multiwire vs. single wire? thanks again...

 

thanks for the reply. the one fixture was installed earlier into the building via a subfeed and brought to the panel. then patio was poured. then i decided i really needed 1 more fixture. i was hoping i could just bring the other wire in and hook it up but then i find i have no breakers left. and now the 1st wire is entombed
under 6" of concrete. and in pipe at entry not enough slack i doubt?

 

Take a look at the breaker and see if you can find a manufacturers name on it, then if that manufacture makes breakers to fit the job you have and easy way out. If the breaker is rated to handle more then one wire it should be written right on it of have a second connection point. There are different styles of breakers on the market but without knowing the panel name or at least the brand name of the breakers it is hard to tell you where to find the information you need. take a look here and see if it helps you any.

http://ecatalog.squared.com/catalog/...1/17201002.htm

 

Can't he pigtail right in the service panel?

 

Pigtail the wires in the service panel. It is allowed unless you start to go over the fill factor. Most panels have plenty of space.

 

pigtail inside the panel will do it. i have enough slack on the first set of wires. and tie them togeher and pigtail to the single breaker. thank you all very much!

 

Just a note. UF cable is also sold under the Romex brand, same as NM cable. So "Romex" by itself does not mean that it was wrong. If it was NM, then I agree that it was wrong.

 

I see someone beat me to suggesting to pigtail but about the only breakers currently in use taht take 2 wires are Sq D. Some Crouse Hines had provisions for 2 wires. If ha is a stab-loc it must be Federal and it takes only one wire. I have a whole box of breakers as we have been getting rid of Feds. I replaces 3 of my own and I am going to replace one for an Uncle shortly too.

 

i want to thank all of you who responded to my questions. floodlights are up and are working correctly. i did pigtail inside the panel box, which worked out fine. btw the romex was nm type cable. after i replaced the burned out wire, i rolled it up and saved it for scrap copper. i looked at it today and indeed its nm. oh well , but hey thank you all again for helping me. sincerely john