220 supply, 110 possible


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Old 01-12-03, 09:07 PM
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220 supply, 110 possible

I replaced my 220 WH with gas and now have a 220 supply that I would like to run outside to my tool shed. When I get it there, should I install a panel to have access to 220 and 110?
 
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Old 01-12-03, 09:45 PM
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There are normally not enough conducters to take off to run a sub system from a water heater wire. You really need 3 wire with ground.
 
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Old 01-13-03, 04:05 AM
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WH wiring

I'm not sure what is at the end of this line, as my house is wired with no ground (hot and neutral only). could I not drive a ground rod at the new panel or connect to the house water pipe before leaving the house?
 
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Old 01-13-03, 06:39 AM
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You can certainly use the panel space formerly used by the water heater breaker for your shed. But you almost certainly cannot use the existing cable, so you'll need new cable starting at the panel. And you may or may not be able to reuse the breaker itself.

Whether you should install a subpanel or just a circuit depends on how much power you need in the shed. You need the grounding rods at the shed only if you need the subpanel. If you install the subpanel, you can likely reuse the water heater breaker (but you may not want to, depending on your power needs).

There are a lot of "ifs" here. We can help more if you tell us more, e.g., how far away your shed is and what your power needs are for it.
 
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Old 01-13-03, 09:33 AM
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Fair questions... my shed is 50' from the house, I need basic 110 for medium duty tools and lights. Nothing larger that a 10" table saw. the breaker in the panel is a 220 30 amp. At present there is no need for 220 but wanted to keep the options open. My WH was under the house, which is much easier to get to than the panel box (middle of house with no conduit leading outside)

I planned to use pvc and run under ground to the shed with the same size wire a WH location. When I come in to the shed, I need 4 or 5 recpts. and overhead lighting (flur. or incand.) with switch at door. No heating or cooling
 
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Old 01-13-03, 10:04 AM
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The next key question will require to crawl under the house. Tell us exactly how many wires and what kinds are in this cable. I expect the answer is one black wire, one white wire, and one bare wire -- but I'd like you to check.
 
 

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