one switch, two outlets


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Old 03-10-03, 05:57 PM
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one switch, two outlets

My house was built in the 1950's. I have a room wall switch that controlls two outlets at once. If I disconnect the switch, will the outlets still operate? Option two: Could I use the switch for one outlet and not for the other one? Thanks.
 
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Old 03-10-03, 06:01 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "disconnect the switch". It is possible to remove the switch and leave the receptacles powered, and it is also possible to remove the switch and leave the receptacles dead. It depends on what you do with the wires that were connected to the switch.

Whether or not you can use the switch for just one of the receptacles depends on how it is wired now. Turn off the breaker, pull the switch out of the box (without disconnecting any wires), and tell us all the wires you see (both those connected to the switch and those not connected to the switch). After you do this, we may ask you to do the same thing at each of the two receptacles.

Does the switch control both the top and bottom half of these receptacles, or just one half?
 
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Old 03-11-03, 01:44 PM
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one switch two outlets

There are three wires coming into the switch box. One wire comes in from the top and the other two from the bottom. They each have a black,white,and brass wire. The top black is connected to one of the bottom blacks that then go to one side of the switch. The other bottom black goes directly to the other side of the switch. The three white wires are connected together. The three brass wires are put together and then grounded to the metal box.
THe first receptical has two big wires coming in. Each has three wires again. The two blacks are connected to one side of the plug and the two white are connected to the other side. THe grounds are twisted together and connected to the green screw.
The second box on the line has the one wire coming in--the black, the white and the brass.
Wow--hope I am not too confusing. WHITE LAKE
 
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Old 03-11-03, 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the additional information. It was very clear.

It is not possible, however, to make one of your receptacles continuous live and the other switched without adding more cable behind the walls. The same power feeds both receptacles (daisy chained from the first to the second).

Exactly what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
 
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Old 03-11-03, 03:16 PM
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one switch two outlets

I am repainting this room, so I thought I might as well tackle this problem at the same time. The switch turns on and off anything plugged into the two receptacels. It is great to turn the switch on when entering the room and have a light turn on. But of course anything else will turn on. If I have my electric alarm clock or my telephone or my summer window air conditioner in these places then they too will turn on and off. This becomes impossible. So, can I keep the switch turned on and just put a cover plate over it so no one turns the switch off by mistake?
Thank you. This was great to have someone that new what they were doing to talk this over with. Thanks again. White Lake
 
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Old 03-12-03, 04:39 AM
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You must have a least one switched lighting circuit. Whether that is a receptacle or a fixture in the middle of the room.
 
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Old 03-12-03, 12:58 PM
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one switch two outlets

Upon taking the switch out of the box to check out the wires--the switch broke. Can I somehow bypass the switch and just make the two outlets regular outlets with continuous power. White Lake
 
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Old 03-12-03, 01:37 PM
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Connect the 2 wires that were on the switch together with a wire nut. If it had a ground, put a wire nut on that too.
 
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Old 03-12-03, 02:58 PM
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Bypassing the switch is an electrical code violation as lestrician mentioned in his post before last. I would prefer to see you install a new switch and use some tape to hold the switch in the up position to remind everyone not to turn it off.

Just in case it wasn't clear, if you do remove the switch, the grounding wire does not go in the same wire nut as the other two wires.
 
 

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