Range Plug In Floor Yes Or Not
#1
04-07-03, 07:01 AM
Range Plug In Floor Yes Or Not
IM PUTTING TILE IN OUR DINING ROOM AND KITCHEN. MY PROBLEM IS I TORE OUT THE BAR IN BETWEEN THE TWO ROOMS AND AM PLANING ON A ISLAND. THE RANGE PLUG WAS IN THE WALL I TORE OUT AND I WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL IT ON THE FLOOR SO I CAN MOVE THE ISLAND AROUND FOR CLEANING. IS THIS POSSIBLE OR IS THEIR A BETTER WAY TO DO IT, OH YEAH THEIR IS ONE OTHER 110 PLUG I WOULD LIKE TO DO AS WELL. I WILL BE FOREVER GREATFULL FOR YOUR REPLY!
#2
04-07-03, 07:13 AM
I'm not really sure if the NEC addresses this, all I know is that floor outlets have to meet some pretty stringent rules.
Frankly however I would not want an insland with a stove to move, it may move when you don't want it to (such as when you have a pot full of boiling water on it). There should also be no need to clean underneath the island, how many times do you clean underneath the other kitchen cabinets?
Frankly however I would not want an insland with a stove to move, it may move when you don't want it to (such as when you have a pot full of boiling water on it). There should also be no need to clean underneath the island, how many times do you clean underneath the other kitchen cabinets?
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04-07-03, 05:50 PM
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As long as the receptacle is proper for the range (i.e., a 40-amp or 50-amp 4-hole receptacle), and as long as the box is rated for floor installation (very special and expensive boxes), I can find nothing in the NEC that would prohibit this.
Two possible problems: (1) I'm not sure you'll be able to find a floor box that can hold the required receptacle. But no harm looking. (2) There may be building codes (i.e., not the electrical codes) that restrict or prohibit a portable range. Be sure to check this idea with your building department.
Two possible problems: (1) I'm not sure you'll be able to find a floor box that can hold the required receptacle. But no harm looking. (2) There may be building codes (i.e., not the electrical codes) that restrict or prohibit a portable range. Be sure to check this idea with your building department.
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04-07-03, 07:32 PM
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Although I would agree and completly recommend using a box list for use as a floor box. I bring up an anomoly in the code.
314.27(C) Boxes listed specifically for this application shall be used for receptacles located in the floor.
Notice the word "in" at the end of the sentance. If you place a standard surface mounted box on the floor, facing up, technically you might be ok.
314.27(C) Boxes listed specifically for this application shall be used for receptacles located in the floor.
Notice the word "in" at the end of the sentance. If you place a standard surface mounted box on the floor, facing up, technically you might be ok.
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04-07-03, 08:39 PM
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Ron, I don't quite get that interpretation. To me, 314.27(C) seems to very clearly say that only boxes listed for use in a floor can be used in a floor.
#9
04-08-03, 12:48 AM
I'd feel a heckuva lot safer with surface-mount boxes. Have you ever seen what happens to flush-mounted boxes when someone spills a Coke in them? A sugary mess that eats brass and other metals. I don't know how it would affect electrical wiring, but I do know that it causes microphone connectors to fail.
(Remember, these boxes aren't sealed if something's plugged in to them.)
(Remember, these boxes aren't sealed if something's plugged in to them.)
#10
04-08-03, 09:21 AM
You have the option of connecting the appliance directly to the Branch-Circuit conductors using 1/2" flexible metal conduit between the appliance and a flush floor-box with a weather-proof cover.This requires a "deep" 1900 box and a single-gang "rough" cover with a depth equal to the thickness of the floor, say 1". Caulk between the rough-cover and the floor after the box is set and finish with the WP cover and a gasket between the WP cover and the floor-surface.
If you want "over-kill", use metallic Liquid-tite Flexible Conduit as the Wiring Method between the box and the appliance.----Good Luck!!!!
If you want "over-kill", use metallic Liquid-tite Flexible Conduit as the Wiring Method between the box and the appliance.----Good Luck!!!!
#11
04-08-03, 09:41 AM
I know that in some areas all ranges/cooktops have to have a range hood to ventilate it. In some areas it has to be vented outdoors. It doesn't make a lot of sense move the base if you have to leave the hood there. Assuming the code requires it. The island also has to have a way to be locked in place mainly because you don't want it to move when you're leaning on it. While it may be ok to do it from a NEC standpoint I don't really think it's a really good idea.
I can tell you that I've never seen an island that has a cooktop that is movable.
I can tell you that I've never seen an island that has a cooktop that is movable.
#13
04-08-03, 12:52 PM
Unless the cooktop can be plugged into an outlet and the outlet be permanently mounted on the floor and be flush with the floor then having any kind of moving island will be pointless as you'll only be able to move the island a very limited distance.
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04-08-03, 03:06 PM
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John,
My point was that a surface mounted box is not in the floor, but on the floor. Hence a surface mounted by need not be listed specifically for this application. Any surface mounted electrical box will do.
My point was that a surface mounted box is not in the floor, but on the floor. Hence a surface mounted by need not be listed specifically for this application. Any surface mounted electrical box will do.
