It can happen. I was making a hookup the other day and the guy I was doing it with and myself had done a hundred of these over the years and I was distracted enough to make 2 errors in the same job and damm near electrocuted the both of us. Its all in a days work in my life but it does happen despite our best intentions and sometimes there are those of us on these sites that can get accused of being uppity but they are only that way I am sure out of some concern from experience I am sure. So I think thats why Phish got the type of answer he did in a couple of responses. One of the guys was right too, that you might not get the exact answer you want here but if you sort a little you can find the right one. We could hear a couple more stories from mistakes guys that been doing this for a living have made once in a while. Sometimes they are as important as stuff about the right way we do things too. Ok, another thought. I am 43 and over the years have nearly killed myself 20 memorable times and everyday its an adventure to make it to the bed with most of the limbs intact and people that attempt this type of work as a hobby find out just how easy it is to cut off a finger or slit their arm with a razor, the hazards are by the thousands with power tools. I am just rambling after a hard day. Phish is right too,, you guys gotta lighten up a bit,, sparkies gotta know some good jokes too. Ok,,, some more. I like this site cause I am not an electrician either and I if was interested in an academic study of code I would spend more time reading at Bob Keis toolbox forum. But as A weldor using electricity and as a farmer with gobs of electrical equipment my interest is primarily a practical matter of safe use and of adequate design to be functunal. Some talk here about residential keeps me informed to the point I can answer some code questions and so a little service work with the local auto mechanic which make for some great horse tradin. The guys at Toolbox intimidate me to the point that when I get in a hurry I can shoot myself in the foot and they know in a second I dont know anything about electricity. This is more of a wiring forum and thats a good thing.

 

Phish has a chip on his shoulder. He came here looking for advice and when he got it, it wasn't what he wanted to hear so he got pi$$ed. You made 2 posts and right away he smarted off with "wow,thanks for the help". From then on, things got worse no mattter what was said he felt like he was being talked down to.You just cant help some people!

 

But,, we should be funnier too. I do know a lot of firemen due to some neighbors and they are some of the most technically proffieient people and I am sure he was just foolin around as there is at least one of the brotherhood is a contractor in any major firestation. Plumbers too. Bout 3/4 of them are sideliners.