Small Kitchen in bsmt


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Old 07-17-03, 10:27 AM
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Small Kitchen in bsmt

Hi, I am putting a small kitchen in my basement.

I will be installing an 18" dishwasher, Gas stove with elec ignition and a microwave(about 1000 watts) with a hood built in over the stove. One GFCI outlet over the countertop and 2 hi-hats up above.


How does this look ?

- One 20amp for the 18" dishwasher.
- Onc 20amp for the microwave.
- One 20amp for the stove.
- One 20amp for the Outelt and lights


(1) Can I use just one 20amp for the stove, outlet and lights ? I'd more than likely just use the outlet for a toaster or a blender on occassion.

Thanks
Joe
 
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Old 07-17-03, 11:25 AM
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I'll simplify the NEC requirements, and make my reply specific to you new kitchen plans:
(2) 20A GFCI protected circuits to serve countertop areas
(1) 15 or 20A circuit for lighting
(1) 20 A circuit to serve gas stove and microwave (if MW is above stove)
(1) 20A for dishwasher
You could combine the stove, MW, ad one countertop receptacle together to eliminate 1 circuit.

bottom line: Small appliance circuit can not be combined with ANY lighting/general purpose loads, or outside kitchen, minimum 2 circuits (20A) feeding countertop receptacles. Gas stove does not need its own circuit, it will be fine with the MW., it only has a igniter, clock, lights, etc inside it.

gj
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Are you aware of rquirements for spacing of receptacles on the countertop or wlsewhere?
Rule: no more than 24in. from end of countertop, and no more than 48" between receptacles. the edge of the sink of stove counts as the end of the countertop. Any countertop space wider than 12inches requires a receptacle. All countertop receptacle must be GFCI protected, and any within 6ft of sink also must be protected.
 
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Old 07-18-03, 09:40 AM
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Green Jacket has a good, comprehensive reply. I'd like to toss something in there though. Microwave is a small appliance, and the (2) 20A receptacle circuits he mentioned are called "small appliance branch circuits" by the NEC. No reason you couldn't plug the micro into one of the receptacles on the two 20A small appliance branch circuits. Same with the stove. One recep behind the stove just to eliminate cord showing, and could still be on one of the two 20A recep circuits.

As G.J. says, no lighting on the recep circuits, and 15 amps will handle quite a lot of lighting, plus you can use 14/2 on a 15 amp circuit which is easier to handle and is slightly less money. However, my personal preference is to run min. 12 gauge wire is OK for both 15 and 20 amp breaker, in case you add to that circuit in the future. #12 wire can be protected by either a 15A or 20A breaker. #14 is 15A breaker MAX and cannot legally be increased on circuits with #14 wire present.

Hope that helps.

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Old 07-18-03, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by JuiceHead
Microwave is a small appliance, and the (2) 20A receptacle circuits he mentioned are called "small appliance branch circuits" by the NEC. No reason you couldn't plug the micro into one of the receptacles on the two 20A small appliance branch circuits.
This is incorrect. Even though they are called "small appliance branch circuits" they are to serve kitchen countertop surfaces only. There are limited exceptions to other areas these circuits may serve (the igniter for the gas range is one of them), but a built in microwave is NOT one of them.
 
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Old 07-18-03, 02:51 PM
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Bolted Fault is right. The 2 required branch circuits for the kitchen are to serve the countertop receptacles only , with few exceptions. A microwave/ rangehood is not one of them.
 
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Old 07-18-03, 03:01 PM
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my countertop is only 36" wide plus a 25" wide sink. it is a very small kitchen and the fridge is already on another circuit (forgot to mention that, sorry).

Do I still need 2 circuits for the countertop ? Sounds like overkill, no ?

Thanks
Joe
 
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Old 07-18-03, 03:05 PM
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Yes, you still need two 20-amp small-appliance circuits. These circuits may serve dining room receptacles and the refrigerator (but no lighting or fixed appliances) as well as the countertop if you choose. The code does not differentiate between large and small kitchens (maybe it should).
 
 

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